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Hello I am using the newest version of utorrent,just upgrading from 1.7.7,I am on i7 with a pci-e ssd HDD and as soon as I upgraded to the newest version,I downloaded a well seeded linux torrent and as soon as i reach arounf 1.0mb\s I get the disk overloaded 100% almost instantly.Is there a permanent fix?
In version 3.1.2? No... there are work-arounds in advanced settings and some have had satisfactory results with changes in cache settings, and others still have no issues at all. For myself the easiest fix after mixed results with "tweaks" in 3.1.2 was to simply rollback to this version... "2.1.1 build 25302" ( last stable ver. 2) uTorrent staff does not give advise or support rollbacks (DO NOT ASK THEM !!!!)... but myself and others do.... also users cannot tell you were to find archive downloads in open forum setting... (... if you go this route, your on your own, both in the download location and or support... period.)
Some have gone back to ver. 1 ... but as noted somewhere in this thread, and I agree... ver 1.xxxxxx has other flaws and lacks important features avail in later versions . I have had zero errors so far on 2.1.1 at speeds up to 2.7MB/s sustained. Little different UI but otherwise has most of the same bells and whistles as 3.1.2. The UI, IMHO is also more attractive and easier on the eyes. Looking forward for the next GEN. of uTorrent, but for now this works fine for my needs. At least I didn't have to go to Vuse. :cool:
As noted in above ^^^^^ you don't need to go back that far... 2.1.1 build 25302 is a very capable ver. and should solve all your error issues related to cache/ write errors, with no advanced setting mods and or tweaks. (also handles magnets fine)I have tried all the online fixes,and they are only bandaids-the problem returns.And that really sucks,since I would love to use the newest version of the software,especially since 1.7.7 does not supports magnet links...
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a faster hard drive might be the solution. but your pc has to be able to actually allow the speed too, as in it won't make any diff if you use a PII or PIII, 25-35mb per sec is useless
The comments at Toms hardware are basically correct, your internet speed shouldn't be affecting your HD speed, but you can thank win7 or vista for this not always being true.
Rather than post a link to someone elses comment, why not answer my original question,Do you know your actual HD speed? do a test, find out, you might be surprised. If you can't find a copy of Roadkill's speed test..how long does it take to move a 2gb file from 1 physical drive to another? more than 20 seconds? Math aside, I do that(20sec for a 2gb file) on my usb3 drives which test at 120mb sec on my main pc.
let me know, I am only trying to help.
Thanks Tesla for the research .... but with all do respect to yourself and uTorrent staff, for myself and hundreds of others... this version has cache/write issues and they have already admitted as much. So why are we chasing hard drive issues again? Moving huge files from directly from storage A to storage B is not exactly the same as a download stored in uTorrent cache, queued to write to hdd/ssd files. Could you maybe site an example more relevant to this issue ?
Please take the time and look at above screenshot #7 .... notice the version "2.1.1" then look at the speed. With 700MB to download it took less than 10min. With the same exact settings in ver. 3.1.2xxxxx .... would get the same approx download speed until the error would shut down everything. After maybe 4 or 5 stops and starts, if it didn't go into the "flushing to disk forever mode" I might get it done in approx an hour... just seconds away from destroying property and or myself.
If this is a hard drive i/o thing, could your point myself and the hundreds of others with this issue to a link in FAQ or uTorrent guide which shows special min. requirements for hard disk performance for using ver 3.1.2xxxxx? And why this version has a different requirement than previous versions, which in my case at least requires no expensive hdd/ssd upgrade?... (fyi I don't use win 7) so all the posts in my link circa 2009 would be completely relevant. Sine none of them mentioned exclusions to OS systems available at the time. (all versions pre Vista SP2)
Rush.....
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Just a quick thing... Every time I download at a pace faster than 1 MB/s, uT always uses quite a bit more CPU on my computer (from almost zero to ~10-20%, and sometimes the antivirus uses 40-55% after the dl was finished). Is it just me or do others have the exact same issue on using a lot of the PC?
(uT 3.1.2 build 26773 on a Windows 7 Machine)
What processor are you running... ?
I've watched my CPU at all different speeds all the way up to my max 2.7MB/s down and usage has always been...low to moderate... same with memory... no real substantial difference fast vs. slow downloads . I have seen this in a few threads though... so your not alone. Your hdd/ssd obviously will be working harder with file writes but even my moderately equipped desktop shows nothing to cause alarm in heat and or resource capacity.
What anti virus are you using?... this has come up also in other threads... never seen unusual activity with AVG during or after downloads. I do like to do a custom scan on all torrent folders before I proceed with any activity on enclosed files within. :cool:
Pretty average download... 2.1MB/s down... sorry forgot to arrow...(had Chrome and capture app. running also)
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Yes' date=' 2.2.1 also good as I wrote, but it has some unnecessary functions.
But 3+... the download with 3+ is a bad dream because of the disk bug.[/quote']
dunno if this is your problem or not..do you know the actual speed of your hard drives?
check this post, it may help..http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=109018
a faster hard drive might be the solution. but your pc has to be able to actually allow the speed too, as in it won't make any diff if you use a PII or PIII, 25-35mb per sec is useless
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/253821-32-torrents-hard-disk-speed
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Me neither. It probably manifests itself on higher rate Internet connections
Could be on to something Rafi... I have a above average 10/100 cable setup which consistently gets 25Mb/s down on speedtest.net.
Most healthy torrents (good seed to peer ratio) I see approx 2.5-2.7MB/s down. sustained..... maybe others with this issue could chime in on there respective down speeds to see if fast down speeds are a common denominator.
That being said since rolling back to v.2 no issues whatsoever....no adjustments/tweaks to advanced or other settings (same exact settings as 3.1.2) and never has "overloaded" :/ makes you scratch your head :|
Rush....
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I've never changed diskio.use_partfile to false in uTorrent 3.0. I also never had a disk overload issue on any of the uTorrent versions since I started using the program. Don't know what the problem is on some people's computer. You should try using version 3.0 of uTorrent and see if you still have that problem.
It's strange some users have had zero issues with no adjustments or tweaks to anything. And there are obviously way to many to ignore to which this problem requires some sort of mod to the advanced settings or other tweaks.
Makes you wonder if it could possibly be a OS compatibility thing... just throwing out ideas here.
Maybe you could give us your setup ie. OS, uTorrent ver. and maybe speed test etc. Something is weird if some have to do nothing and others have to change settings and or rollback to avoid this issue.
Thank in advance dyep...
Rush....
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I reinstalled my operating system x5 for 2010. This bug age ~ 1 years. And not only for me. I'm the member of the largest Hungarian torrent site and hundreds of people said they couldn't download normally with the new uTorrents because of the disk over bug. A lots of people installed 1.7.7 because of this.
And if you type this to the forum search or Google: Disk Overload 100%
You can see, tousand of people can't download because of the bug. The latest working version is 1.7.7. (or maybe 2.2.1).
Rollin on 2.2.1...25302 (the last stable v.2) zero errors 15GB down so far up to 2.7MB sustained for 30 mins. all files written to hdd with no more than 10MB queued in cache out of 32MB total.
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IT'S NOT WORKING! sorry to say this but the latest version of utorrent isn't working for me, i tried reinstalling, changing all setting over and over but it always freezes when i : recheck files (it stops rechecking at 99.9% and the program freezes so i can't download anything), the speed isn't even close to the one i had in the previous version etc soo many problems. i'll try to download the previous version cause that one worked like a charm. i don't know what the problem is but i've seen that it uses all my memory when i try to recheck files at it stops at 99.9% so the recheck process never ends,
Your an official member of the club now... read the above ^^^^^^^ posts, where myself and "FredSam" are not trying to kill each other and check those links it will point you in the cache/write direction. Pun intended
EDIT: your problem could be something different...next time it happens look at the cache queue in speed disk stats tab and see if the bottom bar write/cache is all green, if it is your torrent files are being held there without your permission and not being released to write files on hdd/ssd.
Rush...
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As for the so called cache related issues, can any of you here provide specific example, including a link to example -torrent, the exact files-selection and settings.dat file? I don't thing this possible issue will be fixed unless examples will be posted that will assist in reproducing it!
Already rolled back... I trash and overwrite all delete's to a non recoverable state... so I can't help with a file but if you got the time, browse through those thread links above.... dozens of examples, and symptoms which are all apparently associated with skipping files. When used as recommended by Firon... not to skip files, it worked perfect... duplicated with 3 straight torrents. Prior to that virtually every torrent with skipped files would load the write cache (at random unpredictable times) and freeze before completed (disk overload 100%) or when raised the size of cache to "any size" .... simply filled that up without writing any files to hdd. which ends with, (flushing to disk)... often just stuck in that state indefinitely.
As for links to particular torrents that I have downloaded...for privacy issues and board integrity that would not be possible in an open forum setting. Don't think it matters what torrent it is... it's the way the download is executed ie. skipping files
All I can say is using the current version and the out of the box or slightly tweaked settings... try any 1GB to 2GB torrent with more than 3 or 4 files... click download and drop down dialog box untick all but target file and start. Observe download in speed/disk stats window if the write stats cache bar rises and doesn't drop to normal queue levels it will sometimes just keep building to auto or user set cache level then shut down. "disk overload 100%" Iv'e duplicated this same scenario at speeds between 25kB/s all the way up to 2.7MB/s down it doesn't really seem to matter. At this point all goes to what appears to be a preset holding pattern speed of 10kB/s total up and down.
Anyway, thanks for asking Rafi, I'm personally done with this version until a new one comes out... my understanding is that this won't be addressed until the next version is released and not in the build updates of this version.
Alright, tired of writing about this... so good luck
Rush.....
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After reading your first paragraph I stopped. You've sure shown your ignorance' date=' bias and why no one should read or believe your posts.[/quote']
You sound like an arrogant troll in your posts... and pretty sure you read all of his paragraphs since you had to point out that you hadn´t.
I´ll listen to Rush over you any day of the week, he might swear a bit more than you, but he doesn´t bring the attitude of being a douche.
Think what you want, I know what I did. I just don't suffer fools gladly. I suspect a sockpuppet.
Don't get all paranoid now... I think your saying I have 2 accounts here ? that would be a perma-ban according to forum rules.... ya think I would take that risk just to make a point to you ?....prove it. I haven't a clue who rocketcheeze is but he or she is certainly correct
"Suffer fools gladly" there you go again with what started all this crap in the first place... you already said my first post was just "crap" and now this ? Fred, let it go... I don't back down and from shihite like that so it's best for the whole thread to quit taking up space. Post in a respectful manner and I will always reciprocate, If you disagree... fine just say it in a different way instead of flaming my post in the first place and I will do the same.
Last post about this... time to move on...
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After reading your first paragraph I stopped. You've sure shown your ignorance, bias and why no one should read or believe your posts.
I would have stopped too when I knew I had no answer or intelligent response to a single point. Facts suck when they get in the way of your anecdotal evidence. Surprised you made it through one paragraph when you realized that this guy does know what he's talking about. Ignorance would be someone who mouths off random garbage of which they cannot backup with empiracal facts and or evidence, that would be you, not me.
How big are "actual" downloads again 1GB=_______ show your work or don't post stupid comments
Yea...I'm biased toward what ?.... ignoring problems don't make em disappear .... read the hundreds of posts in multiple forums on this issue and tell me why only FredSam knows the magical fix ? .... wis i wer smrt lik yuo
Version. 2 rollback update ... skip files all day zero errors... What ? All this can be yours free without custom "FredSam debugging" tech tips.
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Why should we have to disable or not use important features in the program to get it to work correctly ? Example...there are torrents which may contain 10 files and you may only need 2 ... not very efficient use of your bandwidth or time to download all 10 and trash 8 of the files that you never needed in the first place.
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Case in point' date=' this is crap, you don't need to waste diskspace or time, you can if you want by messing with the advanced settings. But just because there's a file on your disk that says that it's 1G doesn't mean it takes that much disk space. Further by using the option which allows a different extension until a down load is complete you won't be confused by the "edges" of files that have to be downloaded when you select to skip some files.[/quote']
Exactly how much space does a 1GB download take up Mr. professor ? properties> ...... 1 GB=WHAT? 500 MB ? 750 MB ?..... what does it even matter ? it's more than I wanted to download in the first place. Whether it's 10% more or only 99% more, I didn't want it .... but that's the only way according to the staff I can get NO errors... and they are right it works great. I just hit my 250 GB monthly bandwidth limit because of it ... perfect program. "Edges of files" ? ..... since plenty of us "skip files" and the program has a simple dialog box for it... maybe you can help the author add an option to direct us to the "use a different extension option" so they can add it to the UI. Then we don't have to research how to use what should be a simple feature. If it's all that "simple" .... where's the sticky post "temp fix here for ver. 3.1.2xxxx"
Apparently you know more than uTorrent's own authors and admin... maybe they should hire you... since you seem to have it all worked out. If there isn't a serious problem with the program why did an administrator say this...
(Firon, admin) said.... http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=114372 Post #4
"We're looking into this, but more than likely, a fix won't happen until the next release, since the code is involved and pretty messy. We're rewriting disk i/o anyway for the next version."..... (apparently this is just crap too) why would they be trying to "fix" a problem which doesn't even exist ? Since you are the utorrent wannabe tech pro, maybe you should let the staff know how you figured out the problem all by yourself before they write a new version that they don't even need.
With all do respect to the admin, in particular (Firon and "never said I was nice".... DWK) which has been as helpful as much as one would expect for an admitted problem which involves "pretty messy" code writing (we get the same response... are you skipping files ?) I totally get that.... it's business, can't fault them for having to try to continually answer an unanswerable question, I would probably do the same ...
We already know that there is an issue with the program ^^^^^^^... and we get... "are you skipping files" ? (yep, of course we were... I just had to download 2 Gigs of which I needed 1 Gig) worked perfect... why the hell should I have to use up all that bandwidth using a program which has a feature of which we are advised NOT to use.
Yep, most of the complaining posts are from posters who haven't read the manual, FAQ or done a search (no matter what those posters say.)
Really, show me Mr. smart arse where in the FAQ or manual does it say... "Never skip files, even though there is a function for it" .....
Another class of people play with settings with no idea what they do (or worse they think they know what they do and are wrong.) Then they complain when they themselves cause their own problems: the advanced options say keepa-you-hands-off for a reason.
What are you talking about ? The problem is still there whether you use advanced settings or don't even know how to navigate to them. If you have the bugging technique all figured out show "the team" your work so they will know what to do, and save us all some time.... cause your apparently the only one who knows. Plenty of smart guys rolling back to previous versions for no reason at all ? ... maybe their all just stupid and you got it all figured out.
"Another class of people" .... did my browser take me to Huff-Post without my permission again ? Maybe you meant "group"... or maybe your just an arrogant techie wannabe.
I've run essentially every version of uTorrent in the 3.0, 3.0.1 and 3.0.2 series and have encountered most of the disk caching, files not moving, speed, etc. problems that people have been complaining about and with (obvious to me) debugging techniques and a little searching I could always get uTorrent to work correctly enough to do what I need. In my reports I've been trying to help, not solve a problem that was stopping me.
After all that and you admit you have to use debugging techniques to get a function to work ? ... damn dude, send them a invoice your doing all the research. Isn't that the job of the author... and the job of admin to keep us informed of the status ?
I can’t believe the number of people spreading FUD, some of them are obviously malicious, but most are simply arrogant. Conversely the staff and some experienced users are quite helpful, but rarely get the information needed to debug poster's problems.
Are your referring to me ? ... quote me directly and make your point. Your not going to hurt my feelings bro... this ain't even close to being my first "forum rodeo" . Google this... "utorrent disk overloaded 100 percent" and come back and tell me this isn't an issue.... when your done reading those... try this one "utorrent flushing to disk" more stupid utorrent users... not as smart as you. No fixes or answers anywhere such anecdotal garbage... tick here and un-tick there and then ..... oh yeah don't any skip files.
These are just the one's Iv'e posted in, started only one... only been a member for a couple weeks... guess all these users are all stupid and arrogant too... here's your chance you tell them yourself... that your smarter than all of us even though you haven't really gave a actual solution nor has any one else... cause there "ain't one until the next version comes out...." maybe ... blah blah blah blah... utorrent cache/issues issues vol 1....
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=113296
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=113600
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=113922
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=114626
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=110738
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=114478
http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?id=114372
We still love uTorrent no matter what I say,
Rolling back to ver. 2 stable ... no "debugging techniques" required
Rush.....
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Turn that around and what do you have? - I mean no one else is complaining about their AV having problems with Utorrent updating. I never have any issues with Utorrent updating. I also don't have slow-downs and no one else is reporting slowdowns. .
Agree with you about the AV ... that is not an issue with this or any other build... there are a few AV programs which are reported to not be the best fit with utorrent but it is as simple as creating new rules in the program itself much like a firewall exception.
The thing is, now that you mention other people's problems with uTorrent bugs, I myself don't have any problems whatsoever, at least I haven't noticed any. Every uTorrent version that I used until now over the years, including these countless 3.1.2 builds, worked just fine for me - they get me the torrents I download without any hassle - no disk caching issues, no memory leaks, nothing - they all work the same for me. If they have/had any bugs (and they certainly must have), they didn't affect me in any way that I would notice....
Consider yourself one of the lucky ones.... the write/cache issue is so rampant now it cannot be dismissed as an anomaly to a selected few. Google it... endless forum posts of the same issue. Do you ever skip files in the dialog download window ? If you don't that is probably why you have not seen this annoying issue.
Why should we have to disable or not use important features in the program to get it to work correctly ? Example...there are torrents which may contain 10 files and you may only need 2 ... not very efficient use of your bandwidth or time to download all 10 and trash 8 of the files that you never needed in the first place.
By talking to others... more computer savvy than myself, a client can and should work fine while file skipping... users are well documented about how previous builds did this with no hiccups at all, why can't this one ?
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People who complain about constant bug fixes and updates to uTorrent need to lose their posting privileges.
Your just kidding right... do you browse any other threads... like in troubleshooting/ or speed problem ? .... If the daily updates actually addressed the number one BUG.... "files stuck forever in cache/write hell" and "disk/flushing ETA.... who know's" ...then I would totally agree with you, otherwise the daily updates are worthless if you can't even use the damn program.
Check the dozens of active and CLOSED threads on this topic and tell me it's not a huge issue... there are numerous users doing rollbacks and some jumping ship to different clients. I've got my band-aid fix working "sort of" .... but all the features of this version cannot be utilized, so whats the point of daily updates and acting like there ain't a giant elephant in the room ?
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I agree that this daily and sometimes twice a day updating of "stable" 3.1.2 is annoying to say the least!
I will stand for one maybe two further updates, and if this continues, I'm downgrading.
It's not just the updating that's annoying, it's that my antivirus goes crazy and starts scanning, and uTorrent itself becomes unresponsive for some time after the update. It's becoming unacceptable.
Look at the listed fixes for that build number... if they do not apply to you select "no" ... there is no other reason to select "yes" on every build. I stopped updating about 4 builds ago... and don't see a need to until the next version comes out.
Some antivirus utilities may block a torrent file if they think it's potentially harmful. Excluding the download folders from indexing should solve the issue.
µTorrent 3.1.2 stable (26821)
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Posted · Edited by Rush
Click here....
Then here.....
Find/search box appears here....
If you still want to rollback... post back in "general"... uTorrent staff does not advise or assist in rollbacks (do not ask moderator/admin)...it is not personal, it's "forum policy"... myself or another forum peer can show steps and versions (not links to download locations) in open forum... this you will have to find on your own. Also you may have posted in the wrong place, the moderator might move this to troubleshooting or general. Read index carefully and choose most relevant topic. :cool:
Good luck,
Rush....