Repeated disconnects?

Wofi · February 4, 2009

The image below mostly speaks for itself. When using uTorrent for downloading, I experience frequent disconnects that force me to restart my router each time it happens to regain a connection.

But there appears to be no discernible pattern as to why it happens, I can be downloading at ~150kb/s (the max for my connection) or even at ~10kb/s, they can happen several times an hour or maybe once a day.

(apologies for the large image size)

I'd appreciate any help you could offer,

Thanks.

EDIT: Out of sheer stupidity I forgot to list my connection and whatnot:

OS: Windows XP

ISP: Optusnet ADSL (Australian)

Connection speed: 1500/256

Router: D-Link DIR-300

Mode: D-Link DSL-302G

And Avast antivirus.

Switeck · February 5, 2009

I can put in settings for uTorrent that would virtually guarantee that happens.

But you didn't mention what settings you're using, so I can't rule out that you've done the same.

1st and 2nd links in my signature!

Wofi · February 5, 2009

I had tested almost all of Ultima's Guide (testing the TCPIP.sys patch now) and I went through and followed your guide a couple of days ago, so the settings I'm using at the moment are:

Bandwidth

Upload rate: 10kb/s

Download rate: Unlimited

Max connections: 60

Connected peers per torrent: 35

Upload slots per torrent: 3

BitTorrent

All except "Limit local peer bandwidth" ticked

Encryption enabled

Queueing

Max active torrents: 2

Max active downloads: 1

Advanced

Default but the ones suggested in Ultima's guide,

net.max_halfopen 8

peer.resolve_country false

Pretty much every different setting I've tried so far hasn't really had any influence on the problem.

(While typing the post (~10 minutes) it happened twice more.)

If there's anything else you need let me know,

Switeck · February 7, 2009

Maybe other software on your computer is interfering.

Do a process explorer list of uTorrent's DLL processes.

Wofi · February 7, 2009

I think this is what you're looking for:

Thanks for helping me by the way, I appreciate it.

Switeck · February 7, 2009

I need it as raw text. A picture is harder to see and harder to quote from.

Wofi · February 8, 2009

Ah, my bad. My first time using Process Explorer. ^^;

Process    PID    CPU    Description    Company Name
System Idle Process    0    89.39        
 Interrupts    n/a        Hardware Interrupts    
 DPCs    n/a        Deferred Procedure Calls    
 System    4            
MOM.exe    1172        Catalyst Control Center: Monitoring program    Advanced Micro Devices Inc.
 CCC.exe    1516        Catalyst Control Centre: Host application    ATI Technologies Inc.
ashDisp.exe    1196        avast! service GUI component    ALWIL Software
hqtray.exe    1228        VMware Host Network Access Status Tray Application    VMware, Inc.
GrooveMonitor.exe    1324        GrooveMonitor Utility    Microsoft Corporation
jusched.exe    1336        Java(TM) Platform SE binary    Sun Microsystems, Inc.
msnmsgr.exe    1828        Windows Live Messenger    Microsoft Corporation
ctfmon.exe    1400        CTF Loader    Microsoft Corporation
NMIndexStoreSvr.exe    2012        Nero Home    Nero AG
explorer.exe    832        Windows Explorer    Microsoft Corporation
 TSVNCache.exe    2336        TortoiseSVN status cache    http://tortoisesvn.net
 firefox.exe    2268    1.52    Firefox    Mozilla Corporation
 procexp.exe    2228    7.58    Sysinternals Process Explorer    Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com
 uTorrent.exe    416        µTorrent    BitTorrent, Inc.

Process: uTorrent.exe Pid: 416

Name    Description    Company Name    Version
<Pagefile Backed>            
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<Pagefile Backed>            
<Pagefile Backed>            
<Pagefile Backed>            
ACTIVEDS.dll    ADs Router Layer DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
adsldpc.dll    ADs LDAP Provider C DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
ADVAPI32.dll    Advanced Windows 32 Base API    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
ATL.DLL    ATL Module for Windows XP (Unicode)    Microsoft Corporation    3.5.2284.0
CLBCATQ.DLL        Microsoft Corporation    2001.12.4414.308
COMCTL32.dll    User Experience Controls Library    Microsoft Corporation    6.0.2900.2982
comdlg32.dll    Common Dialogs DLL    Microsoft Corporation    6.0.2900.2180
COMRes.dll        Microsoft Corporation    2001.12.4414.258
credui.dll    Credential Manager User Interface    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
ctype.nls            
DnsApi.dll    DNS Client API DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3394
GDI32.dll    GDI Client DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3466
hnetcfg.dll    Home Networking Configuration Manager    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
IMM32.DLL    Windows XP IMM32 API Client DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
Iphlpapi.dll    IP Helper API    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2912
kernel32.dll    Windows NT BASE API Client DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3119
locale.nls            
mdnsNSP.dll    Bonjour Namespace Provider    Apple Computer, Inc.    1.0.3.1
MPRAPI.dll    Windows NT MP Router Administration DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
MSCTF.dll    MSCTF Server DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3319
msctfime.ime    Microsoft Text Frame Work Service IME    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
msvcrt.dll    Windows NT CRT DLL    Microsoft Corporation    7.0.2600.2180
mswsock.dll    Microsoft Windows Sockets 2.0 Service Provider    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3394
netapi32.dll    Net Win32 API DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3462
NETSHELL.dll    Network Connections Shell    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
ntdll.dll    NT Layer DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
ole32.dll    Microsoft OLE for Windows    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2726
oleaut32.dll        Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3266
rasadhlp.dll    Remote Access AutoDial Helper    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2938
RPCRT4.dll    Remote Procedure Call Runtime    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3173
rsaenh.dll    Microsoft Enhanced Cryptographic Provider    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2161
rtutils.dll    Routing Utilities    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
SAMLIB.dll    SAM Library DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
Secur32.dll    Security Support Provider Interface    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
SETUPAPI.dll    Windows Setup API    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
SHELL32.dll    Windows Shell Common Dll    Microsoft Corporation    6.0.2900.3241
shfolder.dll    Shell Folder Service    Microsoft Corporation    6.0.2900.2180
SHLWAPI.dll    Shell Light-weight Utility Library    Microsoft Corporation    6.0.2900.3462
sortkey.nls            
sorttbls.nls            
unicode.nls            
USER32.dll    Windows XP USER API Client DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.3099
USERENV.dll    Userenv    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
uTorrent.exe    µTorrent    BitTorrent, Inc.    1.8.1.12639
uxtheme.dll    Microsoft UxTheme Library    Microsoft Corporation    6.0.2900.2180
VERSION.dll    Version Checking and File Installation Libraries    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
WLDAP32.dll    Win32 LDAP API DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
WS2_32.dll    Windows Socket 2.0 32-Bit DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
WS2HELP.dll    Windows Socket 2.0 Helper for Windows NT    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
wshtcpip.dll    Windows Sockets Helper DLL    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180
xpsp2res.dll    Service Pack 2 Messages    Microsoft Corporation    5.1.2600.2180

Switeck · February 8, 2009

This:

NMIndexStoreSvr.exe 2012 Nero Home Nero AG

I don't know if it's a problem for you, but indexing services usually lock uTorrent out of its own files.

Wofi · February 8, 2009

Interesting, I don't think I've ever had that sort of problem, but anyway I tried killing the process and started up uTorrent again, but it disconnected in less than five minutes.

Switeck · February 9, 2009

I just don't understand enough about Process Explorer and HijackThis! lists to spot what's causing your problems.

Needless to say, if it isn't hostile software on your computer...or bad networking hardware...then it may be your ISP.

Have you done internet searches about your ISP disrupting BitTorrent?

Wofi · February 9, 2009

Wow, I hadn't thought about doing that...

Damn, listed as a "Bad ISP" on the AzureusWiki. Apparently it "limits bandwidth for accounts with a high traffic volume". Which I find interesting, because it doesn't seem to block HTTP or any other sort of traffic. Maybe it just blocks unknown/typically unused ports.

Anyway, thanks for all your help and I suppose I should go find another ISP.

Switeck · February 10, 2009

It's not hard with connection monitoring software to spot almost certain BitTorrent traffic...even without knowing what torrent/s are running or what trackers are being connected to.

BitTorrent has a BIG obvious sign with 1 incoming listening port with lots of peers/seeds connecting to it. And if any of them aren't using encryption, then ALL of them on the incoming listening port can be assumed to be BitTorrent traffic.

Outgoing is a tiny bit harder to determine if it's encrypted...but there's still patterns, such as retrying the same "dead" ips over and over again...or packet sizes...or call-and-reply behavior between the uploader and downloader on that connection (they can be both if both are peers).

Some ISPs just throttle everything they don't recognize...and throttle recognized BitTorrent traffic even further.

Not many ISPs that I know of still use break-the-connection techniques to hinder BitTorrent traffic.

ComCast (mostly!) quit.

This can be badly out-of-date:

http://azureuswiki.com/index.php/Bad_ISPs

...with a handful of ISPs getting better, and numerous more getting a LOT worse.

Methods change, new screw-the-customer hardware gets added or updated.

To really find out about your ISP's methods, try DSL reports forums:

http://www.dslreports.com/forums/all

...and try to get in touch with local computer people who also (are forced to) use the same ISP as you. I've tried local computer stores myself with some success...asking both customers and employees. It depends on how much competition there is as well as luck finding someone else who better understands the problems.

Changing ISPs can be a dangerous undertaking...the OLD ISP can be vindictive, such as continuing to charge after cancellation (the AOL approach) or not allowing you to get a new MAC code for your dry DSL line to the local exchange (ADSL ISPs in the UK approach). The NEW ISP can be as bad or worse than the old...as they're all in collusion over how much to charge and what minimal quality of service to provide -- sometimes forced by the government!

Wofi · February 10, 2009

Unfortunately, most of the people around my areas usually either don't use my ISP, or aren't tech-minded enough to get much information from. Pretty much all of the telephone lines are owned by one company, owned by the government and everyone pays a rental fee.

But the ISP I'm looking to change to is based in my state only, running completely on their own lines instead of the major company's. It's currently cheaper, faster and comes recommended by a few friends of mine, so that's probably where I'm headed before the new month rolls over.

jcpike · May 8, 2009

I am having the same problem as Wolfi,

If I go to the security event viewer in computer management after the disconnect occurs, I get a bunch of errors with the type:"Failure Audit". When I open the error, it says:

************************************************************************************************************

Event Type: Failure Audit

Event Source: Security

Event Category: Detailed Tracking

Event ID: 861

Date: 5/7/2009

Time: 11:41:44 PM

User: NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE

Computer: LENOVO-6806735A

Description:

The Windows Firewall has detected an application listening for incoming traffic.

Name: -

Path: C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe

Process identifier: 1816

User account: NETWORK SERVICE

User domain: NT AUTHORITY

Service: Yes

RPC server: No

IP version: IPv4

IP protocol: UDP

Port number: 55142

Allowed: No

User notified: No

For more information, see Help and Support Center at http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/events.asp.

*******************************************************************************************************************

Clicking on the events.asp address at the bottom brings up a verification to send information which states that the file involved is: xpsp2res.dll

Do you get the same error Wolfi? Does anyone have any insight into this?

Thanks!

-JP

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