antbfc99 Posted December 8, 2013 Report Share Posted December 8, 2013 Hi,After a bit of help with my torrent predicament! I'm new to downloading torrents (last month or so) and it was all going fine, I've completed several torrent downloads (few series and 5 films) with no problems at all. Last week I've had major problems with an amber light so I read through all the guides on here to make sure it was all set up okay. Then I read through the forum and saw that it could be a port forwarding issue. I have followed the guide on port forwarding and all appears okay... BUT the button on torrent is still amber (no incoming connections)Not sure what info you may need to provide help so if you just say what you need (and preferably how to find it) that would be greatly appreciated. Few other bits of info:ISP BT using BT home hub 3Utorrent installed on 6 month old macbook proNo issues prior to thisTook laptop over to g/f's and without adjusting a thing I could download super fast (new GOT series done in 45 mins!) This means to be it's something with my ISP/Router but why would the problem only just have emerged!Completed torrents are stored on an external hard driveLooking forward to being an active part of this forum! Any help is appreciated :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 BT DO throttle BitTorrent and streaming traffic at peak times, their traffic 'shaping' policy is detailed on their website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks for the reply ciaobaby. Yes I've seen that, but that was the case last week as well and I downloaded fine. I noticed that it would be throttled at peak times, so my download speed would decrease, I'd leave it running and off peak it would speed up and complete the download in no time. So I just don't see that thats the issue, surely i'd get something, albeit a slow speed, not an amber light and 0 seeds and peers? Thanks in advance for your help Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 9, 2013 Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 The "amber light" is saying that your client is "firewalled", so either the port is not forwarded at your router or it has been blocked by the ISP.Run the Glasnost tests (pinned thread in Speed Problems) and disable the firewall built in to the "home hub" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2013 Thanks again for your response. i've run the Glasnost test and the results were: Is your upload traffic rate limited?Your ISP appears to rate limit your uploads.Details:* Your ISP appears to rate limit your BitTorrent uploads. In our tests, uploads using control flows achieved up to 16636 Kbps while uploads using BitTorrent achieved up to 980 Kbps.* Your ISP appears to rate limit uploads on port 6881. In our tests, uploads on port 6881 achieved up to 16636 Kbps while uploads on port 57178 achieved up to 981 Kbps.Is your download traffic rate limited?Your ISP appears to rate limit your downloads.Details:* Your ISP appears to rate limit your BitTorrent downloads. In our tests, downloads using control flows achieved up to 23892 Kbps while downloads using BitTorrent achieved up to 29 Kbps.* Your ISP appears to rate limit downloads on port 6881. In our tests, downloads on port 6881 achieved up to 23892 Kbps while downloads on port 57178 achieved up to 30 Kbps.Detailed test results giving the throughput per flow Glasnost runs:All BitTorrent and control flow transfers using port 6881Transfer Direction Bandwidth BitTorrent flow Bandwidth control flowDownload #1 31 Kbps 29 KbpsDownload #2 28 Kbps 30 KbpsDownload #3 28 Kbps 30 KbpsUpload #1 976 Kbps 981 KbpsUpload #2 968 Kbps 970 KbpsUpload #3 970 Kbps 970 KbpsAll BitTorrent and control flow transfers using port 57178Transfer Direction Bandwidth BitTorrent flow Bandwidth control flowDownload #1 29 Kbps 23892 KbpsDownload #2 29 Kbps 20318 KbpsDownload #3 29 Kbps 23888 KbpsUpload #1 959 Kbps 16543 KbpsUpload #2 980 Kbps 16534 KbpsUpload #3 980 Kbps 16636 KbpsBitTorrent transfers using port 6881 and port 57178Transfer Direction Bandwidth Port 6881 Bandwidth Port 57178Download #1 31 Kbps 29 KbpsDownload #2 28 Kbps 29 KbpsDownload #3 28 Kbps 29 KbpsUpload #1 976 Kbps 959 KbpsUpload #2 968 Kbps 980 KbpsUpload #3 970 Kbps 980 KbpsControl flow transfers using port 6881 and port 57178Transfer Direction Bandwidth Port 6881 Bandwidth Port 57178Download #1 29 Kbps 23892 KbpsDownload #2 30 Kbps 20318 KbpsDownload #3 30 Kbps 23888 KbpsUpload #1 981 Kbps 16543 KbpsUpload #2 970 Kbps 16534 KbpsUpload #3 970 Kbps 16636 KbpsI've disabled the firewall on my home hub and i have a green light! woo! I have port forwarding set on 60300, but I'm still not actually getting any downloads starting... Saying 0 peers and 0 seeds on a popular download... Think i'm nearly there, any suggestions to get over the finish line?Edit: And just as I post the amber light is back on :-(Edit 2: Left it running and now the light is grey... no internet connection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 11, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Anyone? Really would like to get back downloading ASAP.... all help is appreciated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 Okay then, so which bits of ThisYour ISP appears to rate limit your uploads.AndThisYour ISP appears to rate limit your downloads.Are not making sense?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 wow... Didn't say they weren't making sense. Asked what can I do next to download torrents? Surely that is not the final solution or nobody on BT would be able to get torrents.Appreciate your help and sorry if I wasn't clear before.What about setting up a VPN? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 VPNs bring along their own problems with connections and port forwarding, and of course, regardless of proxies, VPN etc. your data traffic still has to go through BT's systems. They might not be able to block specific ports but your connection can be limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 12, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 okay thanks ciaobaby... I've just looked at BTguard, if i am being limited, think this may be worth a shot? Appreciate I have to pay for it but if it might work....One thing that is bothering me is why I could download LOADS of files just 2 weeks ago with no issues whatsoever... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 Sometimes it takes a while for them to catch on to which MAC address is the heavy user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 gave bt guard a try but that hasn't helped either. So does this mean BT have completely stopped all users from downloading torrents? Is anyone aware of a way round it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 So does this mean BT have completely stopped all usersNo, it's probably just you they have blocked completely. Have you tested it by changing listening ports? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 15, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 is listening ports the same as incoming tcp port? If so, yes i have tried several port all within the suitable range... If not where can I find this please?Would setting up a proxy server of some kind help? BT guard doesn't seem great in this instance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 15, 2013 Report Share Posted December 15, 2013 all within the suitable range... There is no "suitable range" any port number between 1025 and 65535 can be used.Would setting up a proxy server of some kind help?Probably not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antbfc99 Posted December 16, 2013 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I thought a preferable range was between 40000-65000? Either way is that the same as the TCP port i mentioned? So a proxy server won't help. Do you think a VPN is the way forward? I'm sure there must be a way round it or most BT torrent customers would be having the same problem.Thanks again ciaobaby, been a great help so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciaobaby Posted December 16, 2013 Report Share Posted December 16, 2013 I thought a preferable range was between 40000-65000?There are lots of articles that "recommend" many different ranges, the IANA port list is the only one to take notice of.Either way is that the same as the TCP port i mentioned?The listening port is the one defined in Options -> Preferences -> Connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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