Guest Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Just out of curiosity, what/how are you compiling this with to get it so small in size? 82kbs is absolutely amazing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 It's packed with PECompact 2, and the original size might be between 200-300KB (I can't be bothered to find an unpacker). I'm sure the main application is written in C++.I'm not sure whether they've done this but you can get a program's filesize down by removing the CRT (C Run Times) from your project, although this causes a lot of simple functions like strstr() and the like not to be available. These could always be written yourself though. Edit: well, vurlix has cleared that up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurlix Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Good question. µTorrent was specifically designed to reduce its memory, cpu usage and file size to the absolute minimum possible while retaining usability.For the technically inclined, the details are as follow. · Programmed in C/C++. · Built from scratch and only makes minimal use of the C Run Time. This dependancy (if it can even be called that) will be removed in the future, shaving off another 20-30 KB. · Does not use C++ Exception handling, nor the C++ Standard Library, nor the Boost Library. This means we had to reinvent the wheel a little, but the benefits were well worth it. · Finally, the executable was compressed with PECompact to reduce dead weight.There was a time where, although it lacked many features, µTorrent was capable of downloading files reliably and weighed less than 22 KB as built without the C Run Time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 How long ago did you start to work on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurlix Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 The first build is dated Sunday, 17 Oct 2004. The first usable version took roughly 2 weeks to put together. Shortly afterwards, the project was put on hiatus for various reasons. Progress resumed on 15 Sep 2005. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Thanks a lot for the answers, it's much appriciated.Wow, two weeks from scratch is really fast - you must be quite efficient! Just one more question out of curiousity before I'm to bed, what IDE/compiler do you use? Although I only do minor programming jobs I'm quite eager to know what other developers use (it's not like it should make a big difference, though ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurlix Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Strigeus still uses the aging Visual C++ 6, while I prefer Visual C++ 7.1. However, I'm currently learning Mac OS X software development with the superb Xcode tools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
segosa Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Going to port it to Linux after Mac OS X? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurlix Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Linux is a possibility.. but it's definately not on our todo list at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 22, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 It works in Linux under Wine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 23, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 Very Informative post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Would it be possible for you to release the source code for this application as open source?Thanks,Alex Roman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Dude, this has been discussed SO MANY TIMES on the forum already. Do a search before you post. Please.BTW, the authors aren't planning on releasing the source code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdArmor Posted October 2, 2005 Report Share Posted October 2, 2005 Would it be possible for you to release the source code for this application as open source?Thanks,Alex Roman.No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
margodth Posted January 10, 2006 Report Share Posted January 10, 2006 Strigeus still uses the aging Visual C++ 6, while I prefer Visual C++ 7.1. However, I'm currently learning Mac OS X software development with the superb Xcode tools.There is a before and after µTorrent. I was wondering where to learn c++ in so high level as you qualify. How two rebuild the wheel because the wheel has become so heavy that we need to go back in time to make things easier.I really understand why not to do it Open Source, but in all topics I've read about open source in this forum, I've never read about the main purpose of the birth of Open Source. Knowledge. This is what GNU aims as a first step. So I respect the decisions of why not to share the source code, but can you gave us a hint where to start to achieve all that knowledge?Thanks a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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