Availability when uploading

[M64117]

When I finish downloading and start seeding the number in the Seeds column goes to zero.

How do I know how many seeds there are apart from me?

To give a specific example:

Seeds 0(1), Peers 6(8), availability 1.901.

Is the (1) me or is there another seed somewhere?

The ratio on this torrent is creeping up (I aim for 1.5). If I drop out will the availability go to 0.901 leaving the peers chasing an incomplete download?

M

[DreadWingKnight]

Is the (1) me or is there another seed somewhere?

It's you.

Availability is calculated based on the number of complete copies of the torrent seen among connected peers, including yourself.

[moogly]

Yes, that's you and you're the only seeder.

When you're a seeder, the number is null because there is no interest to be connected to seeds as seeder.

[M64117]

Thanks. What about this one:

Seeds 0(0), Peers 0(0), availability 1.000.

I'm seeding but is the number zero because no-one is taking anything?

Also can someone advise me on my question about availability? DreadWingKnight's reply suggests that if the availability is less than two and there is only one seed then dropping out would leave the peers stranded.

M

[moogly]

That may be the case if the torrent is stopped (no scrape, no peer cache) or if your client is not connected.

If nobody is downloading, you should read 0(1)/0(0), you being the only seed.

[M64117]

I may have been in too much of a hurry. The totals are now 0(2) and 0(1) but it took nearly an hour to change.

M

[J69033]

Also can someone advise me on my question about availability? DreadWingKnight's reply suggests that if the availability is less than two and there is only one seed then dropping out would leave the peers stranded.

M

Load the torrent a second time using a different program. It won't let you seed to yourself, so if it reports an availability of less than one you really should stay in.

J

[42GARY]

But is there a way to find out without using a different program? I'd like to know this too.

gary

[42GARY]

Is anyone able to advise me on this query?

Gary

[moogly]

Nobody wants to download your torrent, that's all.

[42GARY]

But I said nothing about downloading. The question earlier in the thread was how to find out the availability if the number of seeds was one and you were the seed. To give an example:

Seeds 0(1)

Peers 2(3)

Availability 1.703

It isn't my torrent, but I'm seeding it. Is it the case that without me the availability would be 0.703?

Gary

[schnurlos]

Is it the case that without me the availability would be 0.703?

Yes.

WIthout any seeder (like you) the 2 peers have in total 70.3% and will not be able to finish the torrent.

Perhaps if another peer comes up, the % can increase, can also reach 100% (if the upcomming peer has the missing 29.7% too).

[42GARY]

Thanks. That makes sense.

Another if I may:

Looking at one torrent the seeds are 0(2) and the availability is 1.692.

If there are two seeds how can the availability be less than two?

The peers are given as 3(7) on the main screen, but on the General screen it says 3 of 9 connected, not 3 of 7, and 4 in swarm. For seeds there are 0 of 0 connected and 2 in swarm.

Another has 0(24) on the main screen but 0 of 2 connected on the General screen.

Which screen do I believe? The only time they seem to agree with each other is when I'm downloading.

G

[DreadWingKnight]

Looking at one torrent the seeds are 0(2) and the availability is 1.692.

If there are two seeds how can the availability be less than two?

Please see my post:

Is the (1) me or is there another seed somewhere?

It's you.

Availability is calculated based on the number of complete copies of the torrent seen among connected peers, including yourself.

In short, you aren't connected to them so they aren't factored in.

While you're seeding, you will NEVER be connected to another seed.

Period

Fullstop.

[42GARY]

Thank you, but I asked a different question. Good manners cost nothing.

[DreadWingKnight]

I answered the exact question you asked. Availability display in uTorrent doesn't count systems you aren't connected to. As a seed, you don't connect to seeds. Therefore, availability doesn't factor in other seeds while seeding.

Paying attention to the answer costs as much as good manners.