I wasn't offended... I was just interpreting your defending of your designs as a negative on mine (since we are the 2 main contributors). I can't put my finger on it, but if I had a guess I'd say your style has more of a commercial, clean, glossy, vector feel moving in the Mac style of things with the aqua, glass and reflections. My designs tend to be a mixture of various styles but have a certain 'edge' to them that I like to add that goes beyond the typical. Some of my designs have corporate elements like yours but I have been told there are influences from the 'scene' which come through (the old school scene back in the day, iCE, ACiD etc... not the ASCII stuff though the other artwork etc...). I personally like the original tribal guy just as he is because he IS simple, unique and odd and that's an important part of the design. Good logos can be monotone, and many often are. But what do I know anyway ... design is so subjective... you can follow formulas but that doesn't mean it will get you there 100% of the time.