ozzyfudd13 Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 I'm thinking of using Peer Gaurdian for my adware-spyware blocker. I'm using Adawre SE Pro now but PG uses less of my resourses (alot). They say they block most everything but are they really safe, what do you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 7, 2006 Report Share Posted October 7, 2006 PG2 does not block spyware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyfudd13 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 anyone else ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Preventing is always better than trying to cure. Trying to cure is always better than ignoring the issue. By using PG to "block" spyware/adware, you're essentially ignoring the issue. You should be trying to rid your computer of it instead ("curing"). Better yet, don't install suspicious applications, so you don't catch the spyware/adware at all (preventing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Peer Guardian 2 is redundant at best, snake oil at worst.It cannot prevent p2p monitoring spies from "getting" your ip if you're connected to trackers, even if you can totally prevent them from connecting directly to you.The ip blocklists are questionable, often "updated" by people whose agenda is to block websites like...THIS ONE...because they have an axe to grind with the maker's policy towards making money.(Note: Some/most of that issue is already sorted out, however they may decide to pull something crazy like that again.)However the block lists are at least partially useable as ipfilter.dat filler...and just ditch the Peer Guardian 2 program altogether.I have an equally huge HOSTS file to block questionable (to me) websites. Even so, I am only protected against past problems -- not future ones. But it sure speeds up surfing to websites that think they need to stuff 10 banner ads and 20 cookies down my throat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game90 Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 however peerguardian is a excellent IP blocker if you wanna block tons of IPs - its very resource efficient Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 As far as I know, µTorrent's ipfilter.dat can block HUGE lists of ips just fine. So if you're wanting to block ips in µTorrent, then why run another program? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shroud Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Because PG2 will block for the whole computer, its easier to set up, it will use less resources, and it will auto update.During setup just use these lists: p2p, spyware, & ads. You only need to block gov IPs if you're in a communist country or into illegal porn. Don't block edu ranges because that will block college dorms with high speed lans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyfudd13 Posted October 23, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 I agree w/ Dark Shroud, its resource friendly and blocks Ads and Spys, maybe not as much as NoAdware or AdAware SE but I can scan whenever I want. With NOD32, PG2 and SBC's popup blocker I do just fine and when I do a scan I only find cookies.P.S. If you don't have Webroots Window Washer you need to get it, Just be sure and chek the right boxes or it will erase high scores for games installed on your 'puter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 23, 2006 Report Share Posted October 23, 2006 Regardless, if you plan on "blocking" spyware and adware from "calling home" with PG2, you've got to rethink your strategy of securing your system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vike Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 PG2 is better than nothing in my opinion, hell even if it doesn't make me anymore safe at least I feel safe. :-p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 And it's exactly that snakeoil-feeling it gives people that makes it so useless, and more harmful instead. Because people *think* they're safe, they download and install whatever they feel like without thinking of any consequences, and that just gives those malware-outputting people more reason to keep doing what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I'll say it again:If you're already running µTorrent and just want a blocklist for µTorrent to handle the WORST of the corruptors, then it's just an extra cpu drain to run Peer Guardian 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webdr Posted October 31, 2006 Report Share Posted October 31, 2006 i like peerguardian lite. There is protowall also. I dont say these for only torrents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyfudd13 Posted November 4, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 OK fine, I checked the µtorrent ipfilter and it runs with µtorrent, awsome. They're list was 68K or so so I looked for others (emule - shareaza...) and built mine to 991K so far. I installed the µtorrent auto updater and edit the list manually after update. If anyone knows how to get PG's list can could you post a link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Why not just use PG if you want to use the list...? Anyway, maybe Blocklist Manager from BlueTack can do the job for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 I agree w/ Dark Shroud, its resource friendly and blocks Ads and Spys, maybe not as much as NoAdware or AdAware SE but I can scan whenever I want. With NOD32, PG2 and SBC's popup blocker I do just fine and when I do a scan I only find cookies.P.S. If you don't have Webroots Window Washer you need to get it, Just be sure and chek the right boxes or it will erase high scores for games installed on your 'puter.Comparing PG2 to AdAware SE and the like is a fundamental flaw in your understanding of what this software does. PG2 blocks IP addresses, ostensibly so that when you attempt to download spyware, it'll be from a blocked IP address and so the spyware won't make its way onto your computer. It's very much 'reactive' in the sense that, as mentioned above, the blocklists are manually maintained by people who have shown themselves to be less than reliable at times. Spyware IPs won't be blocked until someone discovers that spyware is being sent by that IP. PG2 is closer to a firewall in functionality than an anti-virus/spyware app (in fact, most firewalls provide the main function of PG2 - blocking IPs).In contrast, AdAware works like a typical anti-virus application: it scans the files that you're downloading (or have downloaded) to see if they contain known spyware. In that sense, it's also a reactive method of detecting spyware, but it works independent of the IP address the spyware came from. That is to say, if some spyware site changes servers but still serves the same infected content, AdAware will block it, but PG2 won't.And once again.. the best way to protect yourself from spyware and viruses is common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyfudd13 Posted November 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 Your right, I started using my AdAware again. PG2 is nice but not a stand alone, I added my own custom rules list to AdAware and it seems to have started using less recources (???). It still loads its own definitions on startup so what the hey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted November 12, 2006 Report Share Posted November 12, 2006 IMHO, if you really thought "no shit," you would not have thought PG should be used as a malware blocker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
musicguy7 Posted November 30, 2006 Report Share Posted November 30, 2006 where is µTorrent's ipfilter.dat located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 1, 2006 Report Share Posted December 1, 2006 http://www.utorrent.com/faq.php#What_is_ipfilter.dat.3F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21canal Posted January 24, 2007 Report Share Posted January 24, 2007 Thanks to all for posts - I had problems with PG2 after I downloaded additional lists from blue tack. It was blocking OK sites from Yahoo and Google. I have removed it and rely on AVG, Zone Alarm, and Adware SE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garnertr Posted January 25, 2007 Report Share Posted January 25, 2007 When you install PG2, ensure that you read the bloody manual, if console states "http is blocked", guess what? many of your web sites will be blocked and then you'll need to go through your logs and "allow" (basically creating a white-list) which web-sites you want access...I've been using it for years and have had no problems... PG2 has a forum section as well and your questions about (what I call) the who, what, where, when and why's can be answered there...cya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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