tuta Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Hello all,Let me explain a tested bug for 1.7.2 release. It is giving wrong down and up reports to tracker. Most of other admins ( who are using a special edition tracker source ) have same problem with this version. Someone must to check test it.Statistics from my last 2 tests:Over µTorrent >>> 3.62 MB down | 112 KB upOver tracker >>> 2.00 MB down | 112 KB upOver µTorrent >>> 1.09 MB down | 1.04 MB upOver tracker >>> 992.00 KB down | 512.00 KB up1.6.1 is working g8! I cant find any problem with the old version.So then , please let us know what is the issue with this version?Good works! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted September 4, 2007 Report Share Posted September 4, 2007 Not enough information to check.You aren't specifying the tracker source.You aren't specifying the conditions for testing thoroughly.You aren't giving the announce entries for uTorrent from the tracker logs.You aren't specifying the test torrents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 5, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Tracker Source : TS Special Edition v.3.8 (templateshares.net)Tracker status is ok everything is ok. PHP Version : 5.2.4MYSQL Version : 5.0.22GD2 Support : EnabledServer Load : 1.08Server : lighttpd/1.5.0I am testing 1.7.5 too , it still giving wrong informations btw 1.6.1 i ok?I have some err logs here;http_req.c.284: (trace) parsing failed at token ((null) [2]), header: GET 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HTTP/1.1Host: www.torrentturk.comUser-Agent: uTorrent/1750Accept-Encoding: gzipWhat have been changed after 1.6.1 ? I wish you may help. Thank you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Those are scrape requests, not announce.I don't see how those are any problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 5, 2007 Report Share Posted October 5, 2007 Sounds like you don't have a clue what you're doing.Plus, download reporting behavior is different in 1.7 than before. Only completed pieces are reported (like Azureus), so download counts will almost always be different. And upload is reset each time you stop and start the torrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Dear Firon ,uTorrent's new announce system is not usefull for many private trackers. Why did you change it? Stop&Start is the reason of this problem? I have over 30K peers and they all bite me for referring utorrent 1.6.x is so well for private trackers , if not seems we are not going to support utorrent over the private trackers... so bad! we love it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 The main change to the announcing introduced in 1.7.x was that hashfailed pieces don't count toward the downloaded amount anymore in the announce, but Azureus has been doing it since 2.3.0.6 anyway (since before µTorrent ever even became really mainstream):http://azureus.sourceforge.net/changelog.php?version=2.3.0.6 (released November 22, 2005)Core | Download totals don't include hash fails and discards and aren't included in share-ratio calculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Thank you Ultima , i see an opposition there...Private trackers , like us , counting everything over all peers activities... hashfailed pieces must be included on download amount cuz you know they are all downloading from another user.We are Turkish tracker btw here i have friends from Germany , they told me most of private trackers banned utorrent after 1.7.x. I dont want to ban utorrent but there must be a solution for private trackers ? Everything must be counted without any hindrance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Sorry, but we're not going to change it. It's beneficial to the user, and there's no argument that will change our mind (nor Azureus's).1.8 will add the corrupted= key to tell you how much data was discarded, but you really shouldn't add it to a user's download count, as it wasn't good data and only punishes the user. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Firon , stop&start is giving less data information for download stats. This is not punishing user , this is punishing private trackers. Seeders send 10 gigs , leechers get 10 gigs but less then that is counting ? Everthing must be counted , stop start is not the problem of trackers!Not fair!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Eh? Stop and start don't affect the download reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Firon , i am not clear whole of this topic. What informations you need to check this problem?Shortly we have problem with utorrent clients after 1.7.x , not giving correct stats to tracker. I have tested it on many diffrent trackers ( with same source ). 1.6.1 is ok but 1.7.x not .You can test it on www.torrentturk.com if you wish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I don't think you understand what we're saying here.Both µTorrent 1.7.x and Azureus (and az has been doing it for 2 years) only report good data that was downloaded. Any data that was discarded is not included in the download report. Additionally, µTorrent will not report incomplete pieces to avoid the download going backwards when there's a hashfail, so you'll notice that the download will go up in multiples of the piece size (+ the last piece)You'll notice that when you actually FINISH the torrent, the download reported will be the total size of the torrent in both clients. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 *EDIT*Now i have test another file with 5.42 GB ( 1.00 MB hash piece ).I have downloaded 7.93 MB then i stop it and showing Pieces: 4462 x 1.00 MB ( have 4 ). But nothing updated on tracker. It must show at least 4 MB ( 4 pieces ) ?*EDIT2*After 2nd time i start it , downloaded 5 pieces too and it is updated on tracker. But first 4 pieces was not added on this stats. It is only showing 5 MB ?Last of all i stop it , 4 pieces missing on download report. Upload stat is ok.*EDIT3*Now i can understand the problem. If you close or stop it before counting the hash files it is not giving right stats? Thats what i need to learn.Btw giving stats with completed hash files is not fair. Cuz imcompleted datas are not downloading from http/ftp servers. Seeders and leechers are all in same tracker with same ratio rules.Thank you for your messages.Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 I guess if the piece hasn't been hashchecked yet it won't show it.Anyway, the discrepancy is only temporary, because it'll eventually get reported (once the piece finishes). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuta Posted October 6, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 Thank you Firon ,I have announced these all on my tracker , about hash piece reporting and other topics how to report correct stats. Now i am ok with µ! Thank you for your support.Regards! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 6, 2007 Report Share Posted October 6, 2007 1.8 will add the corrupted= key to tell you what data is discarded. Azureus implemented the same key in 3.x. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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