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[repeteor]

http://www.secureaction.com/encryption_pro

Going to register this ( 45 euro's is nothing ).

http://www.secureaction.com/encryption_pro/graphics/screenshot.gif

Absolutely gorgeous

Now how about sharing a file with 2048 bit encryption over an encrypted network. That even the Russians could never crack LOL.

and all you need is the key to open the data.

This is going to be fun

PS Just thinking out loud btw

[Firon]

Meh.

[repeteor]

If you want to make enemies, try to change something

Woodrow Wilson (1856-1924)

and believe me Firon things are going to change ! so i can't understand why people are frightened by new ideas.

I'm frightened of old ones

http://forum.deluge-torrent.org/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=605

http://waste.sourceforge.net/

http://www.alliancep2p.com/

i keep hearing a song by Bob Dylan, i don't know why

[Switeck]

All the encryption in the world won't help...if THEY know who you're connecting to.

THEY = ISPs which track what ips you connect to, for how long, and how much total bandwidth gets used in the process. Encryption may make the transfer LARGER, but will be very unlikely to make it smaller.

Many ISPs are already throttling/blocking BitTorrent based on behavior instead of actually reading packets (via deep packet inspection).

Using a proxy server may very well hide the traffic from your ISP, but then the proxy service may be forced to reveal ips you connect to if they are investigated. Or if it's an 'ad hoc' proxy network like TOR, speeds will be VERY slow.

[repeteor]

Encryption may make the transfer LARGER, but will be very unlikely to make it smaller

this is not the case with A E P 2008, an iso 7.73gb encrypted with the diamond2 2048 bit key turns out at 7.21gb. You can also add files into a compressed .zip archive but this is limited to 4gb.

http://www.alliancep2p.com/dev/system_overview_big.png

Advantages of F2F:

* Users can exchange crypto keys face to face with their close friends, thus avoiding man in the middle attacks.

* F2F prevents random people from proving that a given IP address can be used to obtain controversial files. Once a user knows the IP addresses of all her friends, she can even use a firewall to prevent any other addresses from accessing her F2F port.

* Since F2F applications use link encryption and don't need end-to-end encryption to achieve their goals, they could allow users to control what kind of files pass through their nodes.

* Security: since only a user's friends can connect to her node, no random cracker can try to break into her computer by exploiting a bug in the F2F software. Dangerous files (e.g. documents infected with malware) could even be avoided using strong reputation based networks (see "future uses" below).

* Fewer leechers (or freeloaders). Since a user must use the bandwidth of her own friends, she may be more inclined to act responsibly.

read on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend_to_friend

[ajones81]

A friend-to-friend (or F2F) computer network is a type of peer-to-peer network in which users only make direct connections with people they know.

And therein lies the rub, doesn't it? If you want to share between friends, fine, but most P2P traffic is between total strangers located all over the world, sharing stuff that might not even be available locally. F2F is just not as useful as P2P IMO, sorry.

[repeteor]

Bob has 10 friends

1 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

2 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

3 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

4 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

5 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

6 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

7 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

8 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

9 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

10 This guy has also 10 friends who all can connect to bob

how many friends has bob got now ?

Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open

[Switeck]

"this is not the case with A E P 2008, an iso 7.73gb encrypted with the diamond2 2048 bit key turns out at 7.21gb. You can also add files into a compressed .zip archive but this is limited to 4gb."

While this is definitely smaller, it is not drastically so.

Given that anything you're copying to/from the internet should already be highly compressed, I cannot imagine much better compression results than WinRAR or 7Zip.

And really, file compression software is a form of encryption...just one which the other guys already know.

[ajones81]

how many friends has bob got now ?

I thought "only a user's friends can connect to her node"? So Bob's 10 friends can connect to him alright, but can their friends ad infinitum all connect to Bob, esp. if he "uses a firewall to prevent any other addresses from accessing his F2F port"? If so, it sounds like just another P2P system, subject to interference/blocking by nosy ISPs?

I cannot imagine much better compression results than WinRAR or 7Zip

Or for that matter PAQ, the best compression program by far! It's a real resource hog, though guess that tradeoff's to be expected...

[Firon]

PAQ8i! recompress JPEGs losslessly XD

[ajones81]

Paq8o8! Even better! XD