meatut Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 When uTorrent can't get any download traffic for a particular torrent, it will start working on another one lower down the priority list, which is sensible.But, it seems that it *won't* start working on downloading a torrent if it's not providing any upload traffic for a finished torrent that is still seeding. Shouldn't it start working on another torrent instead of wasting time waiting for a peer to come along looking for data?I have "Seeding tasks have higher priority than downloading tasks" set, because I want it to finish the seeding *if it can* before moving on to another download. But I also want it to move on to a download if nobody is interested in the seed. Am I missing some setting, or is this just "how it works" right now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittlefire Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 In the Queueing pane of Preferences: When you have X torrents downloading Y total and select the seeding tasks have higher priority, it changes to X torrents seeding Y total.If you want it to download, start fewer seeding torrents, I guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Thanks, that's good to know.But it doesn't explain why it is that when there are no torrents left uploading, none begin downloading, does it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittlefire Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 That I couldn't tell you... I don't use that feature, partly because I never have that many torrents running. The queue rotates at a certain interval. I don't know how long it would wait to rotate something in. Do you have alot of torrents which still need to meet the seeding goals (you'll see a * in the # column)? I think they take priority over ALL torrents when you have that seeding tasks option enabled. When not, seeding torrents take up any remaining slots NOT used by downloading ones. This would alternate I believe between those which haven't and which HAVE reached the seeding goal (# column goes blank).Just because nothing is uploading does not mean the torrent is removed from the queue... an oddity which makes me question why the seeding tasks option is even in in the first place. Have you checked out what Ultima's manual has to say on the subject? (F1 or from the Help menu) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 10, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 I appreciate your thoughts thelittlefire, but, with all the qualifiers in your post it sounds like you don't have a definite answer either! :-)Does anyone know for sure the answer to my original question: "Am I missing some setting, or is this just "how it works" right now?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Yes, that's just how it works right now. Non-ideal, I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 Thanks Firon.Is this something that is already being looked at for future releases, or should I add a new thread in the requests section? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittlefire Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 I don't see how it's non-ideal. You want to seed torrents, you seed 10 torrents, they will override the downloading torrents you also have started. You want to download, don't seed so many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 11, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 The problem is that it never switches over to downloading if the uploading stops. It is not giving lower priority to downloading, it is preventing downloading.It's also not a matter of seeding too many - all you need is one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted September 11, 2008 Report Share Posted September 11, 2008 If it's not uploading, then it would be better if queue.dont_count_slow_* at least kicked in (I don't know whether it does, but meatut's description seems to indicate a negative). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 12, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Yep, as a user (not a programmer) that's exactly how it looks to me Ultima. Having queue.dont_count_slow_upload take effect would seem to solve the problem. Is it being looked at for the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thelittlefire Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Having seeding tasks take higher priority follow the rules for queue.dont_count_slow_* sounds like a logical fix to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 To clarify, though, such a change won't suddenly make torrents start downloading always on no-upload. It'd still have to run through the list of queued seeds, determining that they're uploading too slowly before it finally hits the downloads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Yes, that sounds right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted September 13, 2008 Report Share Posted September 13, 2008 Seeding goals being reached and then seeding tasks set to 0 KB/sec speed (Stopped) would probably solve the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatut Posted September 14, 2008 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2008 You're right of course Switeck, but we're talking about when the seeding goal hasn't been reached. There are no leechers in the swarm connecting to me, and I want to leave the torrent seeding for the possibility that someone does connect. But if they don't, I don't want to be prevented from downloading something while I wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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