utorrent 1.7.1 is banned at bitmetv

[Ultima]

1.6.1 actually doesn't have the bug. They pinpointed it to that exact change, and exactly after RC2 (like everyone else was reporting). It crept in late in the game.

[Firon]

I could go see the code right now and tell you why it overflowed, but there's no point.

And no, 1.6.1 doesn't have this bug. It really was introduced by this change.

[funchords]

LOL, I was so busy adding edits to my previous post. Check back there if you're interested in what I said. :-P

Thanks for checking, guys. Interesting injection!

[Ultima]

For the record, they weren't expecting users to find the bug; they didn't expect the bug at all. They do a fair amount of dogfeeding themselves, so it's not like they just handed out untested stuff. They didn't realize the tracker change would affect torrents over ~4.2GB -- it's pretty far from related (at least in terms of initial expectations, just like you've shown).

So yeah, "that's all it is"

[stunt01]

µtorrent 1.7.1 has now been banned. The new version contains a feature that sends your IP and upload/download information to the MPAA and the RIAA

[DreadWingKnight]

stunt01

http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=263170#p263170

put up or shut up

[stunt01]

ok ok just letting u know, so wat shal we do? guys?/ is someone going to do some exstensive research on this topic?

[DreadWingKnight]

There is no proof of the claims that uT sends data to the *AAs at all.

Generate Wireshark logs proving that there is, or don't claim that there is.

[amc1]

And DVD-R's are 4+ GB in size. Like I said, that's a real obvious test case that was missed. It's a bad, non-trivial mistake for a product like this. Test cases, use cases, and boundary conditions -- that's pretty much Software Engineering 101 stuff.

Perhaps - but when you're working on a project which is constantly evolving, it's not always practical - code gets pulled around all over the place and you end up implementing hacks because a full rewrite of code will take longer and may break more things, and besides, writing a full set of unit tests might be good, but it's not always practical for systems which may have a large number of variable factors to deal with.

And as for integer overflows - it's a bit unfair to expect the devs to always be aware of the possibility that it might occur. You're being a bit harsh on them in my opinion...

[stunt01]

So Y R These Trackers Still Banning Common I Like 1.7.1 Someone Needs To Do These Wireshark Things Common Guys

[DreadWingKnight]

I've done the wireshark thing and now the burden of proof is on them.

My wireshark logs show nothing to support their claims that ANYTHING is being sent to the *AAs.

Until they provide logs otherwise, they've made nothing but baseless claims.

[stunt01]

gosh im mad just cause bt gots utorrent doesnt mean they can issue false claims.

my question is y would BT want to give info to the mpaa n e ways???

[invasi0n]

I think there's to much paranoia. And to kill all the rumors will be nice if somebody will spend few minutes to make a tutorial about how to use that Wireshark to generate utorrent logs.

In this way every noob will see if those admins who banned utorrent were right or no.

[Firon]

If there's any tracker doing this, I can try talking to them (if someone gives me the IRC server and channel). It may not always work, but I've at least clarified things for a few of them and gotten them to reverse their decision.

[alin022]

If 1.7.1 doesn't send out data, can someone explain why it has a Generic Trojan attached? My antivirus detect it.

[Ryan Norton]

@alin022

One of two things:

1) It is a real trojan spoofing itself as uTorrent and is not from the main site

or

2) Your antivirus program is wrong/sucks

[alin022]

1. It's from main site.

2. My antivirus program doesn't suck, is one of the best, wrong may be...

[Firon]

Which AV is it? If it's Norton, Symantec, or McAfee, I'll laugh.

Anyway, AV programs are often wrong with their heuristic detection (NSIS and UPX have had this problem for years).

[alin022]

Kaspersky Anti-Virus 6.0

Problem is that the antivirus program don't allow me to install 1.7.1 .

Any solution?

[Firon]

Add it to the exception list, or something.

[alin022]

I try that, didn't work.

[Firon]

Turn off the heuristic detection until they release new definitions or something.

[WazzaUK]

a bit behind lol.... i closed neontorrents anyway - too many crank shafters who think they know what they talking about..... Yeh firon came amd spoke to me... im grateful for that... didnt wanna ban clients for hearsay etc....