Grin Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Lately i've seen some of the peers in peer list as dot, instead of a standart ip. If I "press copy selected hosts", it copies as .:port . They are downloading and uploading as normal, and they are not in my lan (so it's not like a netbios name).Can anyone tell me how do they do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 O.oWhat version of µTorrent are you using? What happens if you copy peer list (instead of selected hosts)? Do you see such an entry in the list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xmodderx Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hmm... That is a very good way of masking your IP! However, it WILL be no doubt down to the program rather than something you can do as a person. When a client requests the IP of a computer ect... The BT client they are using is obviously refusing the attempt. Very sneaky, and very good... Similar to PG2 but in a more direct connective way!I like it OR, it will be a powerful firewall blocking ping, IP, WHOIS requests ect... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grin Posted February 24, 2008 Author Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 2 Ultima: i'm using 1.8 beta (build 8682). If i copy the whole peer list, there are no such ips. If it helps they are using: libTorrent 0.12.0 and bittornado/03H. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kurahashi Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Everybody can do this... if you only have an access to his revDNS settings (so in fact not so everybody but only admins of your (sub)network )And you still can disable names resolving and then copy his IP address, so it's no big deal anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Ah, I didn't realize copying the selected hosts while IP resolving was enabled would copy the resolved address instead... Funky stuff. Because revDNS entries are somewhat easily spoofed, I wonder if there is any real utility behind copying resolved IPs :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Copy Selected Hosts doesn't care if it's resolved or not. It's a mini Ctrl-C on only the IP and PORT columns in the Peers tab. When you highlight the peers, you can use Ctrl-C to copy the whole line of information or use the context menu to only get the first two columns relevant for adding to ipfilter.dat.It is possible this behaviour is a change from previous, however I haven't used 1.7 in recent memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Mhm...? I'm aware of why it's behaving as it is... I just didn't expect it to be that way (and the user manual reflects that thought). I think I'm going to have to ask the devs to change that behavior. Ctrl+C copies the visible text -- that's expected. "Copy Selected Hosts," on the other hand, should go one level lower and get the IP directly instead. Otherwise, the user would have to disable resolving just to get at the IP address if they want to copy it after the IP is already resolved, which is roundabout and borderline dumb. Its behavior is also currently inconsistent behavior with "Copy Peer List" in what gets copied to the clipboard (since "Copy Peer List" grabs directly from the peer list anyway). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Or remove the option to copy selected hosts because copy peerlist already has that functionality? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 No, because not everyone wants every single peer copied to the clipboard -- they might want exactly the selected peers' IPs only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 So Disable Resolve IPs and use Copy Selected Hosts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Otherwise, the user would have to disable resolving just to get at the IP address if they want to copy it after the IP is already resolved, which is roundabout and borderline dumbThere's no reason to duplicate Ctrl+C's behavior. Ctrl+C for visible text, "Copy Selected Hosts" for internal data -- it's quite simple and logical, really (so I'm not sure why you're offering workarounds). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 What workaround?Forcing copy selected hosts to pull IP:PORT duplicates the copy peerlist functionality (albeit at a "filtered" level). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Exactly -- filtered in a way that the user can't do manually without (retardedly) needing to disable/re-enable a feature. What does "Copy Selected Hosts"'s current behavior do that the user can't manually do simply by removing the little bit of text added by Ctrl+C? Nothing. Resovled IPs are of very limited use, so copying them is next to worthless (making a top-level context menu item perform such a useless function is... not very understandable). Using them to display flags, on the other hand, is useful (and that's what they're mainly for anyway: display purposes).What workaround? Disabling IP resolving. That's working around a dumb behavior (copying a useless resolved IP that, as you can already see from the first post in this thread, means nothing).Again, the desired divide doesn't get any clearer:- Copy visible text: Ctrl+C (which can contain all the useless information it wants -- resolved IPs included)- Copy internal data: context menu (copied text can be reused elsewhere without monkeying around) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jewelisheaven Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Prove it's a change in previous functionality, and I'll agree with you. I admit having used 1.8 sustained for so long makes me less sensitive to limitations of the current stable, but this talk about spoofed DNS has been talked about before and I have no doubt it will be talked about in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 I'm not sure what change you're talking about... I never said it was changed; I said it should be changed (so I don't see what it is that I need to prove here).In fact, I'm not even sure why it even makes a difference whether the behavior was changed to begin with. Utility is utility, and sticking to a particular behavior solely based on the fact that that's how it's always been is backwards-thinking. It's not as if there are valid reasons to reject the change, or as if the current behavior has any advantages over the proposed change (whereas the proposed change does have an advantage in that IPs are actually more useful than resolved addresses). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanm Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 Hi, I'm joining the conversation rather late, but a discussion came up about ipfilter.dat and the "Copy Selected Hosts" feature in 1.8 Announcement. I'm in favor of just IP address without port (and no brackets for IPv6, again no port). What was the feature of "Copy Selected Hosts" intended for? As a feature for me - where I copy & paste into ipfilter - it doesn't do what I want exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted April 21, 2008 Report Share Posted April 21, 2008 You're missing the point. A host/peer is not a host/peer unless you know both the IP and the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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