rasherb Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 I thought you downloaded pieces in random order. Then how is it that we are all stuck at 98% with out a seeder. Why can't 100% be put together from all the 98%s? Why do we all have the same pieces? There have been seeds in the swarm. Can someone clarify? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBear Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 If there is a bad piece in a torrent, eventually everyone gets all the good pieces (98%) and nobody has a good piece to complete.Bad pieces often get created by people making up a torrent from a folder with hidden or system files or are created deliberately by anti-P2P groups or their agents in order to "poison" a swarm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Alderaan Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 It usually happens when most people hit and run.Every time the last seeder (the one with everything) stops there is a chance there is a piece that nobody has. If everybody stops the torrent as soon as they finish the download the chance increases. Especially if there aren't a lot of peers and/or most peers only have a small part (<50%) of the torrent.Also I think under certain conditions one seeder prefers to upload to someone who has the download almost completed so to create another seeder quick. If both then leave others might be stuck at low completion percentages.Disclaimer: I'm just going by things I heard. Not by factual knowledge of the protocol. If someone can confirm or oppose the above please do so.(PS I love the new build in grammar check of Firefox 2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 "Disclaimer: I'm just going by things I heard. Not by factual knowledge of the protocol. If someone can confirm or oppose the above please do so."'Not by factual knowledge of the protocol' is a fragment.'If someone can confirm or oppose the above please do so.' needs a comma between 'above' and 'please'GG FailureFox. Just the last sentence contains two grammar errors that it didn't find Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 It only checks spelling errors, not grammar errors. Also, questions end with question marks, not periods.In any case, does it say there's a lot of seeders? If so, you're on a fake torrent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rasherb Posted October 25, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 So, hypothetically, if I get 58% downloaded from a seed, and my buddy has 67% is there a chance when he starts download/uploading we can put together 100%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 25, 2006 Report Share Posted October 25, 2006 Only if he just happens to have the remaining 42% that you don't have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoundSyco Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 although, if you were on the same torrent at the same time and were connected to eachother during this time, you will have some overlap between what you have and what he has because you will both have uploaded to eachother previously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Alderaan Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 Yes hypothetically that is correct. The only way to find out is to restart the torrent.Chances are too big though. U only have to miss 1 piece and both won't be able to finish.I stand corrected. Let me rephrase: (PS I love the new build in spelling check of Firefox 2. The only thing that is striped in this post is the word Firefox itself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted October 26, 2006 Report Share Posted October 26, 2006 I think the Relevance column in the Peers tab would tell how much data the peer has that you don't, and if it's 42%, then he likely has all the data you don't, and vice versa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Alderaan Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Availability is usually the best way to see if the torrent is fully present in the swarm right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted October 27, 2006 Report Share Posted October 27, 2006 Yup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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