HoochieMamma Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well after using uTorrent (and liking it very much) and being so suprised at it's ~100KB size. It begs the question that there must so many programs that should be no where near the size they are. I can't really think of anything currently but I really look at programs closely now becuase of this great little proggie.Does anyone else think about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTufty Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Yeah, ludde and Vurlix have done an amazing job here. I'm seeing lots of programs that could so easily be far smaller than they are, particularly in the open source world (unfortunately). Efficient coding seems to count for a lot here If they don't mind answering, ludde and Vurlix - what techniques do you use to keep the executable so small? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vurlix Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 It's quite simple, really. Just don't use other people's sloppy libraries This includes crap like C++ Standard Library, Boost Library, MFC. If you're really up to it, you can even remove the C Run Time. At that point, it's similar to programming in a high level assembler language.Me, and probably ludde too, are always looking for new challenges -- doing what has been done before, better, faster, smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted October 25, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Me, and probably ludde too, are always looking for new challenges -- doing what has been done before, better, faster, smaller.For the love of God, please have this mentallity always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Well after using uTorrent (and liking it very much) and being so suprised at it's ~100KB size. It begs the question that there must so many programs that should be no where near the size they are. I can't really think of anything currently but I really look at programs closely now becuase of this great little proggie.Does anyone else think about this?Yes, for a long time I thought the art of making efficient use of resources was lost...thank God µTorrent brought it back. 8) Regarding many programs that shouldn't be their size...think about an office suite. So many useless features...there's of course the ultra-lightweight category, like Notepad 2, but when you want formatting etc. there aren't many good choices. Even OpenOffice.org's codebase is bloated...something I didn't expect from an Open Source project. At least KOffice is around, but only for Linux users. So that's just one thing. I'm sure others will fill me in with many more programs that need a lightweight alternative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTufty Posted October 25, 2005 Report Share Posted October 25, 2005 Too many programs try to do everything, that's why they get so big! uTorrent does what it does, and does it well (and even with a nice interface, where most BT clients fail!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxymoron Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 Yes, for a long time I thought the art of making efficient use of resources was lost...thank God µTorrent brought it back. 8)Well, actually, there's quite a lot software out there that's small and efficiently written.- AV(T) Small CD-Writer instead of Nero and the like- Easy Message (or Miranda IM, if you need more features), to connect to the major IM networks (AIM, ICQ, MSN, Y!)- Foxit PDFReader replaces the Acrobat Reader- EssentialPIM instead of MS Outlook- TextMaker/PlanMaker (buyware, though) instead of MS Office / OpenOffice - Spread32 as Excel replacementAnd so on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishidropi Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 plus vurlix you forgot to name that you also compress the file. using PECompact2. which is also a very good way to help decrease the size of an executable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 If it wasn't packed it would be between 300-400KB, which is still small these days. Filesize doesn't matter that much anyway with connections able to download that in less than a second, it's all about performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishidropi Posted October 27, 2005 Report Share Posted October 27, 2005 I totaly agree with you on the performance part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgelgb Posted November 1, 2005 Report Share Posted November 1, 2005 Porque a velocidade de download é tão lenta? Pois o máximo que consigo é 6KB/s.Existe alguma configuração para melhorar esta velocidade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 It's actually like 200KB uncompressed. Jorgelgb, this is an English only forum, please speak English. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Porque a velocidade de download é tão lenta? Pois o máximo que consigo é 6KB/s.Existe alguma configuração para melhorar esta velocidade?From my poor Spanish I was able to decipher a bit your Portuguese..."Why is the download speed so slow? Because the maximum I receive is about 6 KB/s. Does there exist some configuration to maximize this speed?"Yes, but first you need to tell us your if you have a "Network OK" in your status bar (at the bottom of µTorrent). Also, we need to know your total download/upload speed and if you've already portforwarded correctly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 It begs the question that there must so many programs that should be no where near the size they are.*cough* Microsoft Windows *cough* *cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manifold Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Yes, for a long time I thought the art of making efficient use of resources was lost...thank God µTorrent brought it back. 8)Well, actually, there's quite a lot software out there that's small end efficiently written.- AV(T) Small CD-Writer instead of Nero and the like- Easy Message (or Miranda IM, if you need more features), to connect to the major IM networks (AIM, ICQ, MSN, Y!)- Foxit PDFReader replaces the Acrobat Reader- EssentialPIM instead of MS Outlook- TextMaker/PlanMaker (buyware, though) instead of MS Office / OpenOffice - Spread32 as Excel replacementAnd so on...Anyone got a website or something similiar devoted to these types of programs? (I have tinyapps.org already).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 *cough* Microsoft Windows *cough* *cough*Strip it down with nLite and it's much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 hehe thats one of the ways i have been doing it up until recently. truly excellent program for ppl who want to quickly and easily remove crap from windows. ive recently been doing it the long way so that i can take out everything thats unessential to me. theres an excellent guide on this over at http://www.bold-fortune.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=229. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erissiva Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 There is actually a large amount of programs that are very small to acomplish most tasks everyday.http://tinyapps.org/Check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oxymoron Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 http://www.portablefreeware.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon4 Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 The first thing I thought of when I saw this program was Fabrausch, and their 64kb demos. Absolutely stunning 3D animations, music, and the like, under 64kb. Their big project was a 3D FPS game in 64k (IIRC) but I can't seem to find it on the site.http://www.farb-rausch.com/ is the site. My favorites are fr-030 (Candytron), fr-040 (4kb C++ intro, with speech synth!), and fr-022 (ein.schlag). And oh yeah, nLite rocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 11, 2005 Report Share Posted December 11, 2005 fr-019, fr-034, fr-038, and fr-044 are better as far as their 64k demos go for their non-64k stuff, fr-025 wins hands down, followed by fr-036 and fr-038fr-011 sucks but it has a great song, and fr-08 was their original 64k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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