µTorrent (1.22) and problem with userswitching/initializing d3d window

[Treebeard]

currently when i have µTorrent running, and i switch (using fast user switching) to another account.. this is fine.. whenever i log back into the acct running µTorrent and then switch to the other one *again*, it fails to initialize the video hook driver for that logon, and tells me i should either "try again, or if this's happened before in the session, reboot"

same thing with µTorrent running+a game (all games i currently play are using d3d as API, so i don't know if it's also the case with OpenGL..). First time i run the game, it's fine.. 2nd time, it won't start (failed to init 3d window). this's happened with Rome:Total War as well as CivIV, so i doubt it's game related..

first time i run the game (specifically CivIV) with µTorrent running, it'll play for a while, but then 'freeze', and i have to blindly kill the process in the overview (Mighty annoying, too many processes running that start with a C ).. or it CTDs spouting a mem read/allocation clash.

any idea how to fix this?

[Firon]

Sounds like your PC is screwed up, considering µTorrent has absolutely nothing to do with Direct3D or OpenGL.

I can run D3D and OGL games just fine with µTorrent's window open.

[Animorc]

That sounds like a really strange problem. Does it only happen when µTorrent is running?

Try updating your videocard drivers and see if that helps.

[Treebeard]

animorc: i'd really rather not.. 5.7 and higher drivers cause random freezes (ati is still shit at programming).. running 5.6 now, and they work mighty fine in all other situations..

@Firon: i sincerely doubt that.. unless you're trying to tell me a videocard that otherwise works fine goes crazy when it has mutorrent/azureus running.

i've had this problem for about a year with azureus, and have had to reinstall winxp for different reasons about 3x in that period.. so it's not that either..

in any case, it only happens with either of these 2 programs running.. when i close them i can have a game running for 6hrs+ easily without crashes.

anyway, that's half the problem.. the other half is when i have mutorrent running and i use FastUserSwitching more than once in a single session.

this problem is very easily reproducable (here), and happens without 'fail'

config: nForce2 mobo (asus a7n8x-x), AMD Barton 2800+, Asus 9200se (5.6 drivers), 1gb kingston valueram.

[Firon]

ATI anything has never been known for stability, relative lack of bugs, etc...

If it happens to you with both of these programs, something's gotta be screwed with your PC. (bloody ATI drivers I bet)

You using Catalyst or Omega?

[chaosblade]

Either a driver installation issue or something seriously wrong with your hardware. You should check the harddrive's integrity aswell as the RAM just to be sure (as you commented to had the issue with azureus as well, and other programs, i doubt its uTorrent's fault, and maybe when your comp gets overloaded it freezes\crashes due to somekind of hardware error).

[Animorc]

You don't happen to use dual monitors? I believe someone had problems with that. I can't see how the problems would be related, but I just wanted to make sure.

[Treebeard]

not other programs.. just mutorrent and az.

i'm using cat 5.6, yeah..

no dual monitors.

as for the rest of my pc.. like i said.. the only time i have trouble is when i run a game (specifically, any program not using d3d works fine, no matter how much ram it uses), and a d3d window has to be initialized, and with the fast user switching, where mutorrent prevents the video hook driver to start properly after switching to another account a second time.

this NEVER happens with other programs running (if the userswitching happens with az i wouldn't know, í've recently uninstalled that horrible piece of java bloatedness )

anyway, i can sort of understand how java (being the shitty language that it is) could get games not to function when running.. but mutorrent is written in a totally different language (well, not totally, but still no java), so tbh i'm not really sure why these 2 programs would cause the same sorts of problems..

regardless, it's only with either running that games won't load, even though they will as soon as i've unloaded it.

@chaos: ram is otherwise fine, harddrive integrity checking would be utterly nonsensical, since if it would be something having to do with (one of my 4) harddrives, i would've noticed it in other programs as well, and my pc behaves perfectly aside from this.. and anyway, like i said, my pc doesn't crash/freeze.. the game freezes (ie. it's a software error).. my pc keeps running fine.

[Keloran]

ATI on an nVidia board, soemthing tells me thats calling for problems

[1c3d0g]

µTorrent/Azureus is probably causing a conflict with your network drivers, the motherboard panics and decides to send a "KILL ALL" signal to the graphics card, effectively crashing its driver as well... I dunno if what I said even makes sense, but that's what I'd do if I was your motherboard... :|

[chaosblade]

That leads me to another question that only ludde can answer.. How is the speed graph drawn ? If the answer is "D3D", maybe XP's FUS is causing some issues.

[Firon]

Nah, everything is drawn with regular ass GDI. How else do you think it works on Win95?