Palesz86 Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 My only reason 'couse i prefer BitComet (but BitComet is a bullshit against utorrent):at high download rates (greater than 1-2 MB) the writing to disk is really noisy (=peep, clack, etc), but in BitComet this problem don't come up (so it isn't caused by the hardware).I hope you have something for the solution of the problem.Anyway, i think the utorrent is the best torrent client!!!Thank you, forward!ps: i'm sorry, my english is not the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-BAR-BAR-BAR- Posted January 15, 2006 Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 if you dont like bitcomet anyway why remedy tha problem with a client that most trackers dont like anyways. as you say utorrent does all that is necessary and aint making ya case rattle so uninstall bc, use utorrents and sleep well!!i had bicomet a few releases back and it screwed me over big time, huge memory bleeds and whatnot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palesz86 Posted January 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2006 i don't use bitcomet, only for sites that allow it, and where i can download with a great speed (sometime 7-8 Mb/s). The reason is: at these speed the utorrent is noisy, and this is a problem for me ('cause i have a notebook). I'm looking for the solution of the noisy problem in utorrent, 'cause this is a great client, and i want to use it for all speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 http://www.utorrent.com/download/beta/utorrent-1.4.1-beta-build-405.exeAnd well, ludde tried implementing a read cache, but it didn't help. BC does something different, which isn't possible at the moment with µTorrent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palesz86 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 It's a little bit better (!!!) with the new BETA, but its NOISY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 µTorrent is not noisy, your hard disk is! Here's what you can do: Help Ludde with a code snippet/algorithm to quiet down your drive, get a quieter hard disk or move your PC to another room. And quit whining. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palesz86 Posted January 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 You're not right! How i said, with BitComet it isn't noisy, but with utorrent it does -> so it isn't caused by the hardware. With the new BETA it's better, but the problem doesn't solved.It's not a huge problem, i only sign it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 No, you are wrong, I'm right. :| A piece of software can not make noise by itself (it's just a bunch of 01010's etc.), it has to control a hardware device to make noise and that hardware device - your hard disk - is making noise. My hard disk is inaudible...even with µTorrent downloading and uploading at full speed, but that's because my drive employs FBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palesz86 Posted January 18, 2006 Author Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Partial, you have right, but how can you explain, when i'm downloading with BitComet at 8MB/s there isn't any noise, with uTorrent above 1-2 MB/s there is!hm? Can you explain this? it's caused by a software. it won't be a problem with better caching, buffering, etc. . I think.Pálesz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 That's probably because µTorrent's cache (or whatever you want to call it) is not as efficient as BitVomit - that's what I think. But I'm sure it's your hardware that causes noise. A software only controls the hardware, it cannot emit sound by itself. :/Anyway, did you already set your read cache in Build 405? If so, what value did you put it at? You may need to set it to a fairly high value if you're downloading at 8MB/s... :|Edit: typo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 1c3d0g: You know what he means. There is no point arguing over the semantics of whether the software making noise is correct.If he's downloading at high rates, wouldn't it be the write cache that matters, not the read cache? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Well I suggested that (the diskio.write_queue_size) to all the people who complained about their hard disk noise, but apparently they're convinced the noise happens because µTorrent lacked a read cache. Now that it's implemented people still complain, so I don't know what to say anymore. Sounds like almost everyone here has noisy Maxtor drives... :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjard Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 whereas i cant praise maxtor drives enough for being quiet... my new 250gb diamondmax 10s are lovely and whisper quiet.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICleolion Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 Why you ragging on maxtor 1c3d0g? My maxtor drives are fine. The last person i heard complaining about their maxtor drive being noisy in the IRC channel had a Value Line model! What did they expect!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 My Maxtor Diamondmax 9s aren't that quiet, but certainly quieter than Western Disaster. My 300GB Diamondmax 10 is still in the mail, I can't wait till it arrives... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 20, 2006 Report Share Posted January 20, 2006 It's common knowledge that Maxtor are usually the noisiest of all drives - I didn't want to come off as "ragging" on them. :/ I have a Western Disaster in my current PC, and it's not noisy...but my 6.4 GB (IIRC) Maxtor back then certainly was. Now people all over are saying that Seagate is the one of the quietest. When seeking it makes an almost inaudible, very high-pitched noise (but not irritating). Maxtor on the other hand makes a low "rumbling" noise when seeking, definitely audible. Western Disaster is somewhere in between (all observations are IMHO, feel free to disagree).In any case, whatever hard disk you decide to buy, make sure it has FBM...it really makes a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h0rnytoad1 Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 1c3d0g : what is fbm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 Fluid Bearing Motors, IIRC. It makes hard drives operate much more smoothly and quieter. I think almost all new hard drives have that implemented anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cool Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 No problems with high noices from my harddrive( Maxtor DiamondMax 10 200Gb Sata ), quiert like Bitcomet. Has changeddiskio.read_cache_size to 80000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjard Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 It's common knowledge that Maxtor are usually the noisiest of all drives - I didn't want to come off as "ragging" on them. :/ I have a Western Disaster in my current PC, and it's not noisy...but my 6.4 GB (IIRC) Maxtor back then certainly was. Now people all over are saying that Seagate is the one of the quietest. When seeking it makes an almost inaudible, very high-pitched noise (but not irritating). Maxtor on the other hand makes a low "rumbling" noise when seeking, definitely audible. Western Disaster is somewhere in between (all observations are IMHO, feel free to disagree).In any case, whatever hard disk you decide to buy, make sure it has FBM...it really makes a difference. 6.4 gig? that must be a drive from like, 98 or something.. they were all pretty noisy back then and maxtor were definitely the worst offenders. They suck a lot of current too, and get hotter than others. Worst for it seem to be the slimline maxtors, half height drives..I have some experience of modern drives, having recently purchased IBM, Maxtor, Western Digital and Seagate 7200 rpm drives of 250Gb or more:IBM - i'd say the motor makes more noise than the heads.. quiet chattering, though the noise the last one made was really quite sinister.. a shuuuuck shuuuck shuuuck that indicated it was knackeredMaxtor - 4x 250gb ones in my raid array. it's a noisy spinup but quiet at speed. the heads chatter a little, but its a mid-pitched sound and not very loud, especially since there are 4 working in tandemSeagate - A mate has a 300Gig one in his external usb enclosure and he hates it. spin noise is good, quiet, but it frequently makes a buzzing while it does some sort of thermal recalibration and it's enough to wake him up. he has another 4 drives in a raid array, same make and model, and the head noise is considerable, almost like a thumping, and the raid controller dumps blocks of data on all at once.. When it records MPEG movies, they make a loud BLUMP, BLUMP and he's been to considerable effort to quieten the PC. He now looks at my maxtor drives (after ribbing them at first) and wishes he'd bought themWD - as part of my toshiba 320gig external usb drive, it whines a little, like a quiet cooling fan when in use, and i cant really hear any head noise. the enclosure is fanless, so is just the drive whine..of all, i'd rate them like this:maxtor - 1 motor, 2 headsibm - 2 motor, 2 headsseagate - 1 motor, 3 headswd - 3 motor, 1 heads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Right on. August '98 was when I got my 1337 266MHz Pentium II PC. With a whopping 6.4 GB of hard disk space and an enormous 128 MB of RAM! Let's not forget teh SiS 4MB dedicated graphics card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 Weak, my 266MHz Pentium II had a 4MB AGP Riva 128 card. It had 64MB of RAM though (which I later expanded to a whopping 192). Same 6.4GB drive though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted January 23, 2006 Report Share Posted January 23, 2006 I sooo hated that stupid mofo GPU! :mad: Kept crashing all the time with the crappy drivers. And I sooo wanted a 3Dfx Voodoo card! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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