sonicworld Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 how can I prevent that my real IP-address is shown to the Leechers in Bittorrent-Network? I don´t want that interpol or other org can retrace me and then i´m in prison ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenkaz Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Your showing off your ip-adress every time you log into the net, you can't really do anything about it, so if you're too paranoid, then dont download anything illegal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicworld Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Yes, i know, but i´m seeding MS-product at the moment. i found anywhere in azureus-client an option to type in another ip-address shown to the leechers, but I don´t know it any longer. I´ve typed there 127.0.0.1should I switch to azureus again ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicworld Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 it would not be safe 100%, but nevertheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Yeah, what Yenkaz said. There is no, I repeat, no way to hide yourself with BitTorrent. If you're running from the Police, don't go anywhere near a PC, let alone share files on the BitTorrent network. :/ They'll find you anyway, but I thought I'd give you some comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 i've said that before:damn paranoids.. if u dont feel safe doing it dont do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueriver Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 I wouldn't call it paranoid to be concerned about such things, though I agree you can't connect without being a bit vulnerable. There is always ipfilter to block connecting with the most unwelcome IPs. A search on this forum would probably tell sonicworld what he needed to know about how to use that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 TCP/IP communications that the BitTorrent protocol uses REQUIRES the sender and receiver to know each other's ip addresses. Connections can be NATed through a router, but that can run into firewalled issues if not port-forwarded...and still gives the router's internet ip address to the sender/receiver. And that internet ip is almost certainly going to be at the place-of-residence or workplace of whoever is using it, so you're still easily traceable.In short, with direct connection, point-to-point file-sharing such as almost ALL common file-sharing programs (Kazaa, Gnutella, Shareaza, BitTorrent, E-Mule, WinMX, DirectConnect, etc) simply CANNOT hide their ip addresses other than routing ALL traffic through a proxy that will severely cripple speeds and max number of connections. ...Plus the proxy could be acting as a "copyright police" monitoring node, in which case even then all bets are off.There is a small glimmer of hope with proxy-like networks such as TOR, but they simply cannot handle file-sharing levels of traffic and certainly cannot handle the monster-levels that BitTorrent generates. A proxy has to do everything 2x over -- sending out everything it receives, so its effective download speed over time is roughly HALF its upload speed.Another small hope is UDP NAT hole-punching, which could possibly be coded so the receiver/downloader does not in fact know what the uploader's ip address is. However the temporary proxy needed to "introduce" the downloader and uploader to each other has to know both ips. It would also thoroughly complicate BitTorrent to introduce any privacy protection of that kind, because the whole purpose of a BitTorrent tracker is to TRACK ip addresses with the torrent/s in question! DHT and Peer Exchange wouldn't "solve" that, because they too have to know ip addresses to work...they just might not need to know which particular ip has which particular torrent. But at some level, something has to know or no connections could be made.Man-in-the-middle anti-privacy attacks are the hardest of all to stop if everything's being done in the clear over an open network. Closed networks almost always have a single point or points of failure (such as private trackers or private DirectConnect hubs).The problem with being on a network where you can search and download from a million people...is a million people can likely try to download from you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 sonicworld: that option does not do what you think. Your IP is always viewable by everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anoxan Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 lol, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning three times in the same spot than getting caught seeding your xp cd..it's amazing how many people are paranoid about trivial bs like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnage Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Peerguardian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Peerguardian is as solid as Swiss cheese...don't believe the hype. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Peerguardian is a good whistle blower, an instrument to determine if said enforcers (yes, I deliberately chose THAT word) are present on a torrent. Not a measure of defense.But, you should also pay attention to such things as where said torrent is posted, how hashfails you get when initially connecting to it, etc.but, to reiterate what others have said: there is no way to hide your ip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipstar Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Use a tunneling service if you're paranoid. Doubt you'll get very good speeds, unless you pay top dollar though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Are tunneling services actually useful at all? Couldn't the MPAA/RIAA just subpoena the user logs out of the people running the service if they were really determined to get you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yenkaz Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Can't we all just agree that trying to hide your IP is pretty much futile,And that you shouldn't download content that is illegal if you're paranoid about being caught? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nf0rc3r Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Just help the poor guy.Options > Preference > Advanced > net.bind_ipFor your info. Peer guardian/protowall/ip filters alone is useless. Someone wants to knows who is downloading what just has to connect to the tracker and he can see every IP. Likewise, changing IP sent to tracker is also useless, if you connect to someone who wants to know your IP, he still knows it. Peers cannot connect to you since they are connecting to the wrong IP, but if you connect to their IP, you have to give them your real IP in order to exchange data.If both are combined. Then you really get what you want. They can't connect to you and you won't connect to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nf0rc3r Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 lol, you have a better chance of getting hit by lightning three times in the same spot than getting caught seeding your xp cd..it's amazing how many people are paranoid about trivial bs like this.I remember that quote! where was it from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 I don't think that's so much a quote as it is just a simple saying =]And don't give sonicworld the runaround. The simpler solution would be to shut the computer off. Or just pulling the power from the modem =P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnage Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Peerguardian is as solid as Swiss cheese...don't believe the hype. :/How can you prove that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Your IP address is included in the peer list sent by the tracker to whoever connects, so if someone wants to convict you of anything, the tracker says it all. And if they really wanted to, they can subpoena information out of the tracker, which logs your IP and activity (more-or-less). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Pwnage: most IP enforcement people and law enforcement use regular home connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Pwnage: easy. How can you tell when the *AA is/are using residential connections to find seeds/peers? :| You can't...you just can't tell who's behind a certain IP. And I don't need to have a PhD to know that... :/Edit: Firon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwnage Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 Pwnage: most IP enforcement people and law enforcement use regular home connections.How do you know that? Your saying that they have thousands of files transfering from home? Im sure some do, and sure they can suppena trackers, but by getting an ip list from a tracker and getting your ip they cant do anything. Peerguardian is good, and it doesnt really matter to me, i was just trying to help our paranoid friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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