Erm, that's not an answer to my question. I'm not asking what each one is -- I know well enough. I'm asking if one takes seeding goals into account while the other doesn't. Can you give me a definitive answer to this question: if you have seeding torrents that haven't reached the seeding goal by the time the downloading torrents complete their seeding goals, will µTorrent shut down when you select "Shutdown when downloads complete," regardless of the fact that some torrents haven't completed? I asked other people on the channel, and no one seemed to be sure. I suspect I'll have to ask ludde directly myself to make 100% sure -- if I can ever find him on when I am -.-