Lee Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 I know you 'fixed' the initial seeding bug in 1.6, but it's still there. I am able to upload to some users, but the majority stay unconnectable and I dont upload to them. If I disable the initial seeding it uploads to them fine.If you need anymore info, just state it and I'll post it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 it's not designed to upload to everybody.. peers should meet some conditions in order for u to upload to them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 15, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 it's not designed to upload to everybody.. peers should meet some conditions in order for u to upload to them againIt hasn't uploaded to them at all.Edit: I stand corrected, it works now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted July 16, 2006 Report Share Posted July 16, 2006 It takes a bit of a while to ramp up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 It takes a bit of a while to ramp up.Well It started working at full speed, but then it went down to literall 5kB/s for 30 minutes and didn't even utilise my upload speed. It's quicker to just disable the option.. strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game90 Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 super-seeding is designed to distribute a full copy of the file(s) with as little bandwidth as possible, and it may not be necessary to upload at full speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 i tried it todayi was seeding, and there were 5 leechersmy upload speed was 1.5-2.5 mb/s distributed to all of them without initial-seedingmy upload speed was 100-200 kb/s to 1 out of 2 connected peers.. the other 3 peers were unable to connect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 Initial Seeding isn't designed to max out upload speed. It's designed to massively improve the efficency of the upload speed that is used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted July 17, 2006 Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 connecting to 2 out of 5 peers and uploading to only 1 of them is not exactly what i call efficency..there's something broken in it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 17, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2006 [useless quoting removed by moderator]Yeah what [ultima] said. It should at least use a large amount of upload speed to seed pieces to leechers in a short time possible.EDIT by silverfire: redundant quoting removed, and content edited for clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 18, 2006 Report Share Posted July 18, 2006 Oo? I said something in this thread...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee Posted July 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 [useless quoting removed by moderator]Nah, a moderator got the edit wrong.Anyway, the idea of super seeding is to reduce the time it takes to seed the file. uTorrent doesn't achieve this with it's initial seeding feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 Anyway, the idea of super seeding is to reduce the time it takes to seed the file. uTorrent doesn't achieve this with it's initial seeding feature.Umm....Initial Seeding isn't designed to max out upload speed. It's designed to massively improve the efficency of the upload speed that is used.It's designed to increase the rate of piece distribution for a given amount of uploaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 @Lee: Wrong, it was never designed to decrease seeding times. Reread the original description if you need further proof. If you can find where it specifically says it helps decrease the seeding times (or maxes upload speed, whatever you want), can you please quote for us?FYI, seeding less data does not necessarily imply seeding for less time (which, in turn, might've lead to the misconception that it uploads more quickly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted July 21, 2006 Report Share Posted July 21, 2006 i'm still wondering why wasnt i able to connect to the other peers in the swarm.. switching to normal seeding connected and started sharing immediately.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeL0niOuS mOnK Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Super(Initial)-Seeding is intended to maximize the swarm's total potential for efficiency and speed, not necesarily maximize your throughput. if you upload hte entire file to another person, the likelyhood of the torrent staying alive longer increase as now there are 2 completely different sources possible. if you upload 100%(of the size of the torrent) to 10 different ppl, then those 10 ppl only have 10% (assuming they get equal data qty) -- if you go offline, you've wasted all that time and now the torrent is sourced only as much as the total spread of those 10 ppl you gave 10% to.is it really that hard to understand that it's not about maximizing initial speed throughput? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 who do u refer to? i perfectly understand what initial (super) seeding is and how it works.. i am just wondering why wasnt uT able to connect to the other 2 peers in the swarm.. there might be a problem.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamikazee Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 Initial seeding in uTorrent is bugged. Try super-seeding in BitTornado I always get full upload speed and torrent is spreading really good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 No, it's not bugged, plain and simple. I don't know how many times we have to repeat this until you guys understand it: SUPER SEEDING WAS NOT MEANT TO UPLOAD AT TOP SPEED. If it does, then good for you. If it doesn't, it's still following the specs, so it's doing nothing wrong, so you can't call it bugged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 When it falls to less than 1/4 max upload speed (<5 KB/sec) and stays there for 10+ minutes on end...I'd call that bugged. This doesn't increase piece availability in a timely manner like it should. But if the random peer initial seeding decides to seed to is very slow, this can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted July 31, 2006 Report Share Posted July 31, 2006 If it falls to a low speed, then the peers aren't uploading fast enough, so µTorrent won't share another piece until the previous piece gets seeded. You can't really judge it as bugged solely based on your upload speeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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