infirmus Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 When you are only downloading some files out of a torrent:- Could you make sure that no temp files are created for files that are not selected to be downloaded. I have noticed this behavior in the past, sorry if its already fixed.- When all the selected files are complete, inform the tracker that you have finished leeching and tell it that you are now seeding. This is the way that BitComet works.These changes would compliment the upcoming "select files on open" option (http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?p=4469#4469), and make utorrent one of the best clients for handling partially downloading torrents.BTW, i have noticed before that all the files I had selected for a torrent were complete (100%) but the progress for the torrent was still at 99%, dunno if its a bug or already fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosblade Posted October 17, 2005 Report Share Posted October 17, 2005 The first is not possible due to how BitTorrent works. Some pieces may contain parts of several files, needing to allocate space for those. I believe though that from now on such pieces of skipped files get allocated in a general 'trash' temp file.The second isnt correct either, as far as i know. I could be wrong here, But i believe BT defines a seed as someone who was the complete copy of the torrent, ALL OF IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infirmus Posted October 18, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 Yeah sorry I realise that the complete piece has to be downloaded, what I meant was that no temp files should be created in the download directory.Yeah not sure what the bittorrent spec actually says, but if u have a look how bitcomet handles downloading only part of a torrent, you will see that the progress reaches 100% when selected files are completed, then it switches to uploading status just like any other torrent that completes. I know it does actually tell the tracker that it is seeding too, its not just in the GUI.The BitComet system just seems to work really nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 It's not supposed to mark you as a seed since you're not a seed, a seed is a peer with 100% of the file (correct me if I'm wrong). But it does start uploading and work in a seed-like fashion since it doesn't request any new pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosblade Posted October 18, 2005 Report Share Posted October 18, 2005 I believe firon is right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
infirmus Posted October 19, 2005 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2005 Yeah, spose its better to stick to the BT specs.It doesnt really matter if it does report to the tracker that its seeding.Maybe we could just have the status say "Seeding" or "Uploading" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerso Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 It does matter! Because most of the ALTs have a slotlimit. And if you don't download the whole file you're still tagged as leecher and your slotlimit will soon be exceeded. That's the problem. I hope this will be fixed in coming versions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animorc Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 But you are no seeder if you can't seed the whole torrent. Therefore you shouldn't be marked as one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 Exactly. When you selectively download files from a torrent, you'll only have a partial content of it. Thus, you are not considered a seeder, neither by µTorrent, the tracker, nor the original seeder. :| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 It will not be fixed because you are not a seeder until you have 100% of the file according to the BitTorrent specification. And I wonder which is right, the protocol specification, or you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nerso Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 The question is, what makes more sense? It's a pity that you won't differ from these specifications... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdArmor Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 I hate when people choose not to download files, then you get to about 94% and find out the seeders that are there decided that they didn't want the few songs and then you are stuck leeching of that guy with 1.4kB/s upload. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 1, 2005 Report Share Posted December 1, 2005 What makes sense is what the specification says: A seeder is someone with 100% of the file. Not 90%, not 50%, not 99.5%, but 100%. Simple as that.If you don't like it, download the entire torrent and not screw up piece distribution in the process.Being reported as a seeder causes MORE problems than its worth because it'll confuse the tracker, and confuse the actual legitimate seeder since he'll think there's 10 other seeds when in reality none of them have the full thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 Firon is right on all counts. BitComet is known for its 'deviations' from the specs and has been banned from many trackers in the past on account of these.edit: And we don't want µT to be like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosblade Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 - Could you make sure that no temp files are created for files that are not selected to be downloaded. I have noticed this behavior in the past, sorry if its already fixed. Thats kinda possible now i think, using the partfile feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted December 2, 2005 Report Share Posted December 2, 2005 It is, and it's on by default. It won't work with pre-allocate and probably never will, so don't use pre-allocate if you wanna do selective downloading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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