XangXing Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 I am making the seed of a torrent, the problem is that there is a constant download of 6 Kb/s, while with the 1.8.1 it is all right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ver Greeneyes Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 Yes, it is normally limited to 180KiB/s.. I set it to automatic and it went to 40KiB/s, which is much too low - and yet I can't do -anything- with my internet anymore while it's running. This actually happens even if I turn µTP off, (or it did in the first build I tried.. I'm a bit hesitant to do more testing unless required) so the problem is very strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 demo of the issue with RSS releases view disapearing when you click download and then loosing focus on "all feeds" ... :http://www.mediafire.com/?mkmdnryzwwg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 rafi,If you've got 250 connections at once, uTP trying to rate-limit might be failing due to too many connections to manage. Does the same thing happen with 50 total connections?XangXing,Under uTorrent v1.9, the advanced setting net.calc_overhead defaults to TRUE. So uTorrent is estimating how much download bandwidth is used to reach your current upload speed.Ver Greeneyes,Try disabling DHT, LPD, UPnP, NAT-PMP, and Resolve IPs.Also reduce bt.connect_speed and net.max_halfopen to 4 or less.2nd link in my signature for other settings... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 250 is not many, and it should handle them well. PEXing is the issue... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted December 21, 2008 Report Share Posted December 21, 2008 250 is a lot for only 22 KB/sec total upload speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Since TCP is now partly replaced with UDP - overhead might even be reduced, and the overhead calculation/reduction should easily account for more peers. As I see it there are two things to try an do (to adjust the overshoot):A. Find the problem in the math/calculation of overhead for UDP peersB. Attend to the PEX issue - by simply give an advanced control-setup to the MAX # of PEX peers the user like to involve. Since we can eliminate PEX altogether (as I do now...) I don't see any harm in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 TCP and UDP overhead are considered separately. Also, the UDP overhead calculation should be more accurate, not less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'm not saying it's not accurate, just that it has some error... like a + instead of a - ... just kidding... the bottom line - it's overshooting the limit . Just set to a low limit (~12K) use netmeter and see for yourself. how about the user max PEXed peers setup ? can you add it in ? look at the 3rd graph here: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=383827#p383827edit:the problem can be unrelated directly to the UDP OH , but to the way it's taken into account in comparing to the speed-graph/limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus_1250 Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 250 is not many, and it should handle them well. PEXing is the issue...You need a decent connection for that kind of number. 22KB/s isn't. With that little upload, you need to be careful and meticulous with your settings. I wouldn't even turn on PEX. Just wastes bandwidth for little gain (PEX is overrated IMHO). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 200/20KB or 300/30 are typical connections where I live. PEX is now on by default, I think. That's why I suggested the possibility to have a setup/limit for the # of peers for PEX (maybe in the same menu we have the 'enable' for it today). It's better then disabling it altogether. I would also make it so it is auto-set in the 'speed guide' menu where you define your upload. A proper value would probably be around 50 for every 20K upload (and maybe default to 100) . Staggering was also considered as a solution but it seems not to work very well, maybe since the peers' list is changing and it's not so practical/easy to keep track. Though, this # can also be used for Staggering ...Edit:Another user option can be to auto-activate PEX ONLY in torrents that connects with below a user defined # of peers or below some global total # of connected peers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exy Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 is it just me or the new build has error on total downloaded files?check your bottom right status bar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moogly Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Is there a project of a feature with new buttons/icons because with a full 1.8.1 skin, I got this msg: Impossible to load skin file "tstatus.bmp": bad number of images, 16 instead of 19 (or 38) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWIII Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I noticed an odd issue just this morning. I was seeding through the night, no downloads, yet it said my total downloads were nearly 131GB. That total doesn't even add up to all my downloads combined.Just a notice. This was on build 13885 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 Just an impression I'm getting from the latest releases - I have a feeling that finding & keeping good peers also in cases of poor p/s ratio is faster here, and speed is also building up nice and fast (I not using PEX...). Still, I need to get some more experience with it but it looks/feels much improved and stable. Any to my favorite feature - RSS - it was great to see progress in this last build. Keep up the good work Richard ! and be brave and do the #18 item in my list here ... http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=352646#p352646 that is turning greener and greener ! Have a marry Christmas / Hanuka all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neronut Posted December 22, 2008 Report Share Posted December 22, 2008 I'm still having this wacky issue with the download measurement with build 13885 - its measuring the downloaded data in GB instead of MB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
war59312 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 IPv6 is disabled via:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip6\Parameters]"DisabledComponents"=dword:000000ffYet uTorrent says IPv6 is installed on the logger tab.If this key (check the bit order to verify that IPv6 and/or Teredo is disabled) is set than uTorrent should not report anything about IPv6 and the activate IPv6/Teredo button should be disabled too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 IPv6 is disabled via:[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\Tcpip6\Parameters]"DisabledComponents"=dword:000000ffYet uTorrent says IPv6 is installed on the logger tab.If this key (check the bit order to verify that IPv6 and/or Teredo is disabled) is set than uTorrent should not report anything about IPv6 and the activate IPv6/Teredo button should be disabled too.uTorrent reports that IPv6 is installed if "::1" resolves. It prints the Teredo address if an adapter is found with a Teredo address. uTorrent does not consider that registry setting, and will not. If you don't want IPv6 you should uninstall it from the Network Connections properties in the Control Panel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
an_idiot Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I posted in the 1.8.1 thread, but I think that's closed so I will post again here:I don't know if this is a bug or intended:Set the scheduler to "seeding only" at any time slothave some downloading torrents, some seeding torrents. Set the Queueing to allow Maximum number of active torrent = 3, maximum number of active downloads = 3When the scheduler is in the Full speed mode, your downloading torrents will be downloading (3 of them) all rest are queued (good)but when the scheduler is the seeding only mode, 3 downloading torrents will be uploading, and 3 of seeding torrent will be seeding (total 6 torrent running at the same time all uploading... contradiction to settings)Also, if you check the "Alternate upload rate when not downloading..." this does NOT take into effect when in seeding only mode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magnus33 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 One thing for sure its improved by leaps and bounds.Nice work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WWIII Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 I wish my connection still wasn't getting reset all the time. Anyone have any suggestions? I have comcast and they just did the recent speed upgrade in my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zLobster Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 All works fine for me. But speed is little bit lower then in 1.8.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klaus_1250 Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 uTorrent reports that IPv6 is installed if "::1" resolves. It prints the Teredo address if an adapter is found with a Teredo address. uTorrent does not consider that registry setting, and will not. If you don't want IPv6 you should uninstall it from the Network Connections properties in the Control Panel.It would be nice if uTorrent had an option to turn IPv6 support off. Just because someone installed IPv6 or uses it, doesn't mean they want to use it for BitTorrent. (I have it installed for testing purposes)On topic; A question about overhead with uTP. How does it compare to normal TCP? From what I can tell, uTP creates a lot more overhead than TCP. When uploading 30KB/s to a peer, I get about 1.5KB/s back using TCP. For uTP, this is 4KB/s.Second, uTP seems to work pretty well, if there is a large selection of peers to upload to. But the latter isn't always the case. Hance, I personally prefer TCP over uTP, but, there is no setting for this. You can choose TCP, uTP or both but the latter seems to prefer uTP over TCP. I would be nice it there was an option that prefers TCP over uTP, and only moves to uTP when it detects problems (such as ISP interference).Also, I'm I correct in seeing that latency on the first few hops (router, cablemodem) reduce the performance of uTP, even though their may be sufficient bandwidth available to saturate the upstream? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jizam Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 klaus - that might be because you're likely to have more utorrent 1.8.1 (utp able) users to upload to with a larger number of peers. i cannot wait for 1.9 to be officially released. does anyone know if azureus (and others) will introduce this capability with future releases? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted December 23, 2008 Report Share Posted December 23, 2008 That'd be up to them, but uTP is intended to be an open protocol (it's just under testing at the moment, so specs aren't publicly available to others yet). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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