Greg Hazel Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Worse ping times with uTP? At the same rate as TCP? (externally measured) That seems unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer22 Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 Well. Dunno how else you would call this. http://www.shrani.si/f/U/c3/1zynNgEU/2009-01-122208.swfcompared to TCP only http://www.shrani.si/f/Y/11d/4XM48cFc/2009-01-122205.swf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 In both of those videos NetLimiter says "Limiter enabled". What limits does it have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer22 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 no limits. It just means its enabled like working and logging the statistics. For something to be limitted, it had to have the checkbox checked next to the service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Also, you don't show it in the uTP video, but I assume upload is unlimited there as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer22 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 yes. It is unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 It's odd. TCP does not seem to affect ping times the same way - but you said video playback in the TCP unthrottled case was worse than uTP unthrottled, did you not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer22 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Well. Yes, when both are unthrottled uTP is betterm but I still wouldnt want to watch it that way. So you could say its still pretty useless.But when it comes to throttling, TCP is better then uTP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 You just mean that you have to set the limit slightly lower with uTP, right? When set properly uTP behaves just as well as TCP, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer22 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaguarslayer Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 New to the forum but have been apart of the community for about 6 months. Sitting back and reading the posts makes me wonder if it is really all worth the up to 1.9. I installed 1.9 over 1.8.1 and can't even find this uTP. When I installed 1.8.1 back in September, it was a huge awakening to me. I had been using Lamewire and Morpheus for a couple of years and really should have figured this out years ago. Now that I'm a newb/happy user/donor, I need some info to help me help others. When I installed 1.9 and rebooted, uT shows a 1.9 version but I do not see the uTP. If uTP is the "nextgen" for uT then first year runners like myself need some help to help others. Every drop down and option I select in 1.9, doesn't show this uTP. Build 13910 has performed just fine for me, but if uTP is the cutting edge for great speed, then please let me know what I need to do to help me help you. Thank you for the time to pick your brains!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 New to the forum but have been apart of the community for about 6 months. Sitting back and reading the posts makes me wonder if it is really all worth the up to 1.9. I installed 1.9 over 1.8.1 and can't even find this uTP. When I installed 1.8.1 back in September, it was a huge awakening to me. I had been using Lamewire and Morpheus for a couple of years and really should have figured this out years ago. Now that I'm a newb/happy user/donor, I need some info to help me help others. When I installed 1.9 and rebooted, uT shows a 1.9 version but I do not see the uTP. If uTP is the "nextgen" for uT then first year runners like myself need some help to help others. Every drop down and option I select in 1.9, doesn't show this uTP. Build 13910 has performed just fine for me, but if uTP is the cutting edge for great speed, then please let me know what I need to do to help me help you. Thank you for the time to pick your brains!!!!!uTP is enabled by default - no need to configure anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 he probably wants to disable it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 Why ;_; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 the horrible +10msec ping delay ? ... just kidding .... anything new with the issue of following more closely the UL limit ? PS/edit: With our poor connections here (~20KB max) when I set it to 14, it reaches it from time to time and get web pages not to open ... (yes, in spite of the UDP theory...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer22 Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 of course I mean. what about the poeple who have connections like 25Mbit/1Mbit.If you see that when I upload at full 20Mbit I get some wired download of 90kB/s at the same time in NetLimiter, probably more with overhead. When someone downloads at 25Mbit they probably cant upload anymore. Or maybe they cant even reach there full download potential anymore either.What will this mean of torrent community when there full upload is taken just to handle the uTP requests? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insanitysnake Posted January 14, 2009 Report Share Posted January 14, 2009 @Greg Hazel: I found my problem, my upload and download speed on uT 1.9 is CFOSSPEED (Driver Adsl), this program don't consider the uTP traffic and limited same in minimal...I disabled CFOSSPEED and uT 1.9 working fine at uTP activated...Thanks and sorry for my bad opinions... GO GO GO uTORRENT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigbait Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hey guys just have a question? When using UT 1.9 i get super good uploads only when i DOWNLOAD but when just SEEDING my upload is down to like 1kB/s any ideas???? All ports are opened, and upload and download are set to unlimited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 15, 2009 Report Share Posted January 15, 2009 Hey guys just have a question? When using UT 1.9 i get super good uploads only when i DOWNLOAD but when just SEEDING my upload is down to like 1kB/s any ideas???? All ports are opened, and upload and download are set to unlimitedPlease run the logging build, 13911, for about 5 minutes. Exit uTorrent than post the log files here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 pigbait,It may be the case that Shaw Cable ISP in Canada has declared war against BitTorrent traffic, especially uploading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 in uTP - is the uTP header effected by the encryption setup same as in TCP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
opus44 Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Crash dump: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ea6e4835d63d815a00d27174b47c6657e04e75f6e8ebb871 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 16, 2009 Report Share Posted January 16, 2009 Crash dump: http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=ea6e4835d63d815a00d27174b47c6657e04e75f6e8ebb871Please install the Debugging Tools for Windows, and get uTorrent to crash again: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/devtools/debugging/installx86.MspxSubmit the resulting dump (it should be > 60kB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blindbox Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hello, I registered just to post a bug. I'll get straight to it.In build 13910, after downloading TWO heavily seeded torrent overnight (and the download is still running the next day), Firefox refuses to let me surf the web. However, I still could surf the web through another computer on the network. So I went and checked Help>Statistics under utorrent. I found out that the half-open connection is 8.... it might be related. I came to the conclusion that it is at fault. I'm still doing tests though, now I'm running with 50 max half-open connections (windows' default is 10 I believe, so I'm not sure why it failed to let me surf the web). Btw, my mIRC is running at that time and there's no lag for mIRC at all.Settings were 100 connections per torrent and I'm running cFosSpeed. I'll report back in an hour, that should be enough to saturate the connection I guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg Hazel Posted January 17, 2009 Report Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hello, I registered just to post a bug. I'll get straight to it.In build 13910, after downloading TWO heavily seeded torrent overnight (and the download is still running the next day), Firefox refuses to let me surf the web. However, I still could surf the web through another computer on the network. So I went and checked Help>Statistics under utorrent. I found out that the half-open connection is 8.... it might be related. I came to the conclusion that it is at fault. I'm still doing tests though, now I'm running with 50 max half-open connections (windows' default is 10 I believe, so I'm not sure why it failed to let me surf the web). Btw, my mIRC is running at that time and there's no lag for mIRC at all.Settings were 100 connections per torrent and I'm running cFosSpeed. I'll report back in an hour, that should be enough to saturate the connection I guess...If you stop the torrents, does browsing work again? Where did you set the number of half-open connections to 50? In uT or Windows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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