Inacurate Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Maybe I just didn't think about it all that much with BitTornado, or the number just "seems" like a lot more with µTorrent, but how much on average is waste here?I got one torrent that is 1.66GB with 34MB waste, is that normal? I don't recall BitTornado ever being that high, though it does display it in kB and I might just be downplaying that number or something.Just looking for what other people have noticed. Inac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoochieMamma Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Thats about normal, I most of the times get 0-1MB of waste because I have Peerguardian 2 running in the background blocking out those evil organisations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 If you don't see hasherrs, then it's not really something to be concerned about.If hasherrs is 0, it just means it's peers sending you data you don't want or that you already had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocK Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 1st time utorrent user.. from bitcomet (my 1st client)im downloading a 2.65gb torrent with multi tracker411.2mb wasted (19 hashfails) so far. <-edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 WOW. That sounds like a fake torrent, or at least one that's being poisoned...I recommend you get PeerGuardian2 from http://www.phoenixlabs.org and try that torrent again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocK Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 thanks Firon. im gonna look into PeerGuardian2. didnt know of this app. thanks again.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 never had a hasfail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1c3d0g Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Yeah, me neither... :/ And that's so odd, I used to get them ALL the time with BitTornado...huge ones too, like 66+ MB of wasted data... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScubaSteve Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 i have only ever had 2/3 hash fails and that was when i previewed a video fle with vlc and for some unknown reason caused the download to error. as for wasted data i never even look at it as it doesnt bother me. so long as i have the working file at the end im happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 I've had 1 hash fail on 1 torrent.I always keep the log window open so I know I've only had 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 i have only ever had 2/3 hash fails and that was when i previewed a video fle with vlc and for some unknown reason caused the download to error. as for wasted data i never even look at it as it doesnt bother me. so long as i have the working file at the end im happy.I think maybe VLC writes a header to the avi file so it can play it, but therefore making it different to what it is supposed to be? For example if you've downlaoded 5 mins of a 60 mins video, the header for the 5 mins "preview" would be different thatn the original header, because I think thats how AVI's work.*THIS POST IS JUST SPECULATION * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColdArmor Posted November 11, 2005 Report Share Posted November 11, 2005 Hashfail is not in my vocabulary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 I noticed that the faster you download the more data that goes to waste . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gniknomis Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I am downloading a 8.89Gb torrent on dialup. About 10% (give or take a %) ends up being wasted. I don't get hashfails. But it is a bit of a pain though. Is there anyway to reduce this amount? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I am downloading a 8.89Gb torrent on dialup. About 10% (give or take a %) ends up being wasted. I don't get hashfails. But it is a bit of a pain though. Is there anyway to reduce this amount?You could probably reduce the max connections allowed and kick the 'bad' connections so you're getting each chunk typically from a single peer. It's only when multiple peers try to feed you the same chunk that you get duplicate parts. Fewer peers, fewer chances of that.And on dial-up, just maintaining a connection with someone eats a bit of all your bandwidth -- so you might as well be connected only with the good peers+seeds!Also, turn off DHT unless the torrent is poorly seeded or lacks peers. That too eats bandwidth for little return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think maybe VLC writes a header to the avi file so it can play it, but therefore making it different to what it is supposed to be? For example if you've downlaoded 5 mins of a 60 mins video, the header for the 5 mins "preview" would be different thatn the original header, because I think thats how AVI's work.I'm pretty sure that VLC doesn't edit AVI files, but like you, I could be wrong. It just doesn't seem right to me that a video player would alter them. (It wouldn't surprise me if it was copying to a temp dir and editing that, though.)AVI = Audio/Video Interleave. You can read more about the format's intricacies here, but basically VLC tries to play videos even without headers (which specify codec information), because libavcodec (the library VLC uses to play videos) is "smart". At least that's what I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splintax Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 IMO anything under 5% waste is fine.Dialup often appears to be a lot worse. I had put this down to the mechanics of it - over an analogue telephone line - but I'm probably wrong, what Switeck said seems to make more sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverfire Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 I am downloading a 8.89Gb torrent on dialup. About 10% (give or take a %) ends up being wasted. I don't get hashfails. But it is a bit of a pain though. Is there anyway to reduce this amount?Given that you're on dialup, your problem could be inherent from dialup itself. You can't really upload or download at decent speeds, so a lot of clients might snub you without finishing the piece that it was sending. In the case of that happening, all the data it was sending you before it snubbed you might be wasted. As I've said time and again, dialup is the wrong connection to be using peer-to-peer protocols on, especially BitTorrent. They require that you give back when you take, and dialup bandwidth is so laughable that it can barely do one without even starting to mention doing both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted December 23, 2005 Report Share Posted December 23, 2005 Average waste AND errors goes up for torrents with lots of BitComet and µTorrent clients on them that are configured more "leech-like" (ie: lots of uploads at once but only 1-5 KB/sec total upload bandwidth to share between them.)Banning ips that appear to be doing this will no doubt reduce waste and errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmeister Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I am downloading a game, it's 3.92 GB and i ahve 29.9 MB wasted and 7 hashfails....is this bad.....can anyone help me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 No, don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregmeister Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 srry i forgot to mention that i havent dwnloaded the whole thing...currently i have uploaded 1.77 GB and have 31 MB wasted and 7 hashfails...is this bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 27, 2008 Report Share Posted May 27, 2008 I just answered your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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