420 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 DWK is absolutely correct.ILT is actually a very shitty tracker anyway, and hardly private. You can make as many accounts as you want because they've always had open registration. And those morons want to force people to use µTorrent 1.6.1 Build 490 -- that's the latest version they support!I, for one, stopped using trackers which don't allow me to use 2.1 Alpha and I'm not missing out on anything. Most of the good top-tier private trackers allow even the alpha versions of µTorrent. Here's my mini-rant I posted a while back: http://forum.utorrent.com/viewtopic.php?pid=476356#p476356May I use any bittorrent client?Yes. The tracker now updates the stats correctly for all bittorrent clients. However, we still recommend that you avoid the following clients:• BitTorrent++,• Nova Torrent,• TorrentStorm.These clients do not report correctly to the tracker when canceling/finishing a torrent session. If you use them then a few MB may not be counted towards the stats near the end, and torrents may still be listed in your profile for some time after you have closed the client.Also, clients in alpha or beta version should be avoided.And the alphas/betas still work there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travisr16 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Hey,I have just DL the 2.0.2 and I am getting an "access dined error" every time I try and DL something. I have checked my firewall and the utorrent program is in the exception list but nothing will DL.Please help.Thanks,Travis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 And what about the security properties on the download folders/files travisr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travisr16 Posted May 15, 2010 Report Share Posted May 15, 2010 Can you be more specific?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 Did you make sure that the user account that uTorrent is running as has full control over the files and folders? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 It seems like uploading speeds are fluctuating more than they used to (µTP enabled) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 global uploading speed (including overhead) will be more fluctuating in 2.0.2 since it is not limited (calc_overhead default was set to false ). If you like to have a steady over-whole uploading speed - set net.calc_overhead to TRUE and uT will keep the total upload speed steady at your set limit. Remember to increase it if required though (see B[1] tips @ my sig) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Switeck Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 DreadWingKnight said, "The problem is the delusion of the private tracker admins that uTP gives any exclusivity advantage. They have more to worry about from seedboxes."One could also make the same claim that BitTorrent clients that use IPv6 are "unfairly favoring" other IPv6 BT clients. It's a nonsense claim, unless those clients are using EXCLUSIVELY IPv6...but uTorrent doesn't use just uTP or IPv6 by default. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archatos Posted May 16, 2010 Report Share Posted May 16, 2010 May I use any bittorrent client?Yes. The tracker now updates the stats correctly for all bittorrent clients....Any private tracker writing that is simply full of bullshit though, and only show they don't actually test any of the clients they allow.These trackers would also allow Transmission, which for at least 8 releases straight had confirmed issues with misreporting stats. And we're not only talking a couple of megabytes per gigabyte download either.So using any tracker that cares so little about their users as an example isn't really a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlyshadow Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 a question pass my mindwhat is the benefit of having several tracker with close number of Seeders and Peers.Or having many trackers is helpfull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
420 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Any private tracker writing that is simply full of bullshit though, and only show they don't actually test any of the clients they allow.These trackers would also allow Transmission, which for at least 8 releases straight had confirmed issues with misreporting stats. And we're not only talking a couple of megabytes per gigabyte download either.So using any tracker that cares so little about their users as an example isn't really a good idea.Or maybe their trackers are just that good. Either way, I really don't care. As long as they have the best pre times and fast speeds, and they allow me to use 2.1 Alpha or whatever cutting edge version is out there, that's all that really matters to me.a question pass my mindwhat is the benefit of having several tracker with close number of Seeders and Peers.Or having many trackers is helpfull?Well, it really depends on what you're downloading. Usually the hardest to get into trackers have the best pre times (how fast you can get something once it's released in the scene) and the best speeds. A lot of seeds/peers doesn't always mean the best speeds. Take a look at the pirate bay for example. They will usually have plenty of seeds/peers but have crappy speeds anyway cuz people don't really care about public trackers. Also, if you're looking for older releases, they will usually be harder to get on shittier trackers cuz people stop seeding quickly. I'm sure someone could explain it better but that's pretty much the gist of it.Oh, and here's a nice website that tells you all about which private trackers are open for signups, etc:<munched by admin - questionable on rules> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deadlyshadow Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 @420Confused I need more explanation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heidelberg23 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 Why disable net.calc_overhead by default? Have been problems? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 @heidelberg23: no, no problems with it. Just users that didn't know how to adjust speed limits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heidelberg23 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 @rafi: I thought as much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonymous1 Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 See rafi, when we will FORCE ppl to redo down/up test with setting without any option to cancel this everyone will be happy now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firon Posted May 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 A researcher informed us that global download speeds for µTorrent tanked with 2.0.1, and we believe that it was because of net.calc_overhead. It's basically a side effect of most users having shitty caps. This is less of a problem on private trackers, since they tend to have better settings and higher upload caps set in their client.Oh, and most of the big private trackers have all already allowed 2.0.1 (and many 2.0.2, considering the lack of changes) because it fixed the uTP problems that 2.0 had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 17, 2010 Report Share Posted May 17, 2010 >It's basically a side effect of most users having shitty capsIf you'll allow me to be honest here, it will be more accurate to say that it is a side effect of both: 1- users having a shitty caps2- uTorrent having a shitty overhead & Packets-Per-Second in uTP3- ... and you not mentioning anything regarding this important change in any of the 2.01 change-logs, nor giving proper instructions during upgrade And if your researcher will do a better job, I bet he will find out that uT download and seeding speeds are still tanking with 2.02 if he'll measure net Payload speeds (cause of #2 above) I'm glad to hear the good news from the PTs! But to be honest (again...): yes, bugs were fixed, but basically nothing major was changed here in those 2.0x upgrades regarding uTP Packets' PPS and size, and speed connecting to other uTP clients. I guess it was mainly an excuse for them to get more users ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivaldin Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 why why why my connection stay idle for some seconds every 1 or 2 minutes with uTP enabled???when i disable uTP (bt.transp_disposition = 5) then my connection go well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafi Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 why ? uT is probably thinking what to do next... it's not that simple ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraderJones Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 I agree with Rafi 110%. There are definitely two major contributors as stated in 1 & 2 above. The first requires education, both by uT (in the form of better upgrade instructions) and the second, coming up with a better UTP implementation to reduce that ridiculous overhead. Most users don't want to know or care to know how to set the caps correctly, you have to rub their faces in it. repeatedly. There are no easy fixes here, but I do think uT could be doing more on the side of education. Much of the behaviors around bad cap settings can be detected and some sort of visual warning could appear. Continue to fix the UTP implementation and shove some information down people's throats, not a lot else that can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkyHi Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Still only 2.0 doesn't require searching advanced settings and forums to make it work properly!2.0.2 still has the memory overuse problem if you choose to enable cache. And don't tell me to disable it! If I really have to have it disabled permanently to make this program work why on earth don't you just delete that setting!uTorrent started as a tiny, SIMPLE and efficient client. Now? The newest the build, the worse it goes!Went immediately back to 2.0 which works just fine. And the worst of all: the link for 2.0 gives you 2.0.1! The same as the link for 1.8.5! Thank God there's File Hippo!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nivaldin Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 I'm sick of this uTP.... it works fine for someone?why don't work to me? My ADSL? My Router? My Modem? What???This way I'll back to the VUZE... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreadWingKnight Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 So you haven't learned the setting to turn uTP off nivaldin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
booze Posted May 18, 2010 Report Share Posted May 18, 2010 Ok little confused just a quick question if i disable utp: can i still connect to users who have utp AND tcp enabled OR do i only connect to users who have utp totally disabled like me in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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