Tich Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 While getting the latest beta of uTorrent (thanks for all your hard work ludde & beta testers) i noticed a big "Get UseNeXT - Download files without uploading" link directly below the installer download link.Now i don't mind advertising because bills have to be paid for webspace, traffic and food, but by placing such a link directly below the "official" downloads ludde creates the impression that utorrent is somehow affiliated with UseNeXT which is not a good thing at all.IMHO it could severely damage uTorrent's reputation (even more so that that infamous anti-p2p topic which had nothing to do with uTorrent), because UseNeXT is for filesharing what yamba is for MTV.eagerly awaiting your opinions Tich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomZ Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 You'd have to be fairly computer illiterate to think that UseNeXt was part of uTorrent or something similar.And if you are, then that's the whole point of such "ads". Ludde gets money for people signing up to such things, it's hardly a crime. If your like me, you don't even notice these "ads", and if you do, dismiss them without even thinking.Theres my opinion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tich Posted May 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 thats exactly my point... to me people using usenext are pretty much computer illiterate. placing ads for a "filesharing" service like this on the utorrent webpage makes perfect sense... placing a direct link below links to the programm you are distributing however creates the impression, that those two programms are somehow affiliated.i dont care too much about ads either, i just don't want utorrents good and hard-earned reputation to be dragged down by another hundred speculations about ludde's business deals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 ads? I don't see any ads anywhere .. muahahahahahha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjobo Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 I agree.. This is shit. I feel sorry for the majority who aren't using an adblocker. I also feel sorry for the new users when they are welcomed to page that looks like one of the numerous scamsites out there. This definintly hurts µtorrents reputation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 It really looks like one of the official downloads, and it, indeed, looks BAD.:-(bleh, take a better look. i doubt your ad-blocker removes this one. look for "Get UseNeXT - Download files without uploading" text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 adblock + R.I.P remove everything possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStaindHurricane Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 ads? I don't see any ads anywhere .. muahahahahahha Same here. Not seeing the UseNext one either. The guy has to make something...damn. The ads arent intrusive and overwhelming. Use an AdBlocker...and if you already are, use a better one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Determination Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 here's a cap for ease-of-discussion.I don't like it one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted May 9, 2006 Report Share Posted May 9, 2006 Yeah I kinda brought this up in IRC, but no one really said anything much about it. Oh well, doesn't affect me much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodStaindHurricane Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 here's a cap for ease-of-discussion.http://kimages.be/thumbnail/90279239.pngI don't like it one bit.Wow. Now that I actually see what you guys are referring to...it is a little....misleading(?). Looks like it's something avail. for download here at utorrent. I'd dump that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I was being ironic of course, I see all ads ONCE, that's it.And that's about it really, if Ludde wants to plaster the site with ads to make a buck, I'm not going to tell him he can't, or shouldn't for that matter.The dude knows what he's doing.And so do I *grins satanically and activates adblock again* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kulmegil Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 maybe he needs some $ to support the website/forum/UT dev further?Blocking ads rather doesn't help UT to evolve... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wobbud Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I can see how it could mislead people. It should be in a separate area from the main uTorrent download link and maybe under a title such as "Affiliate" or something along those lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WebReaper Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Have to say, exactly what I thought, too. The impression is that UseNext is a uTorrent-sanctioned download, rather than just a click-through ad. Whilst I can see his motives, it strikes me as a little careless - given the stink that was kicked up regarding the alleged 'anti-P2P' links with uTorrent, I'd suggest that adding a link like that (without any indication that it's an affiliate or advert) is simply going to get the app a bad rep. Be a shame to put all that good work to shame just for the sake of a few click-through dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ortiz Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 What exactly is UseNext? Is it like Kazaa? I don't even want to look at the site or try the program. µTorrent is the only thing I need. But it does look bad… especially with that anti p2p issue awhile back. Now this "download anything you like and as much as you want" legal access UseNext program! Gives people the impression that Ludde frowns on peer 2 peer file sharing, unless you pay for it. And that makes people think back to that dll he made, which gave µTorrent a bad reputation, making people get Azureus or Bitcomet instead of µTorrent. UseNext might have the same negative effect on people. Why would he put it on the same page under µTorrent? I understand if he just used an advert only. But he used both an advert and a link to www.usenext.de site…Sad Face =( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dAbReAkA Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Yeah I kinda brought this up in IRC, but no one really said anything much about it. Oh well, doesn't affect me much.i did that too.. maybe it has already been discussed when u brought it up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
µtorrent-Guest Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 OrtizUsenext is a company that sells you an account for the UseNet. Many companies sell you such an account!see wikipediaarticel what usenet is, if you do not know that right now.Most people (computer geeks) do not like THIS company because of their kind of advertising. Its IMHO(!) aimed at computer newbies that have no clue about thinks. They advertise for example with the possiblility of legal downloading with an payed account from them.The fine print is; with bittorrent your downloads are exactly the same kind of legal! And you do not have to pay for BT.The fact is: Just because you pay this company for the account you have NOT the right to download copyrighted stuff (music/films/Games/TV-Shows). Their advertising "everything 100% legal downloading is true if you just download stuff that is legally in the usenetsystem. (And thats in their contract rules!!) The newest TVepisode for example is not legaly in the usenet system! So downloading it from usenet with an payed UseNeXt account is the same as downloading it with µtorrent from other peoples computers with the help of the piratebay.And because of their "D:zweifelhaften" advertisingmethodes aimed at computernewbies this company has a bad reputation with filesharing geeks and even longtime usenet users.HTHhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleh Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Well, as I see it, the more I promote µTorrent, the more people will stumble and see whatever ads that Ludde has placed on the site, so that covers whatever ads I choose to not display.It's all relative baby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICleolion Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 I'm all for the ads being on the download page. Im also all for the download page being redesigned. it's ruining ignorantcow's hard work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultima Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Unfortunately, ludde doesn't get money for clicks on that site. He gets money for every sign-up. While there's a free account, it still requires a credit card number, which scares people away =T*clicks on Google ads* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inf Posted May 10, 2006 Report Share Posted May 10, 2006 Lol, a credit card number ?! When registring with a company that have a site that looks anywhere near to what usenext site looks like, requiring a simple email address would scare me away.Hopefully ludde wont go any further than that with the ads crap.For example, introducing a spyware into utorrent would instantly make me (and actually most of the ppl i personally know) stop using it. Hopefully this will never happen. But again, this kinda reminds me the edonkey history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allied Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Usenext sucks. It's a supernews reseller. It'd be like using Trustyfiles as a Bittorrent client. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emtec666 Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 They could at least have added the text "Advertisement" above the Usenext link to avoid confusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stihia Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 At least the Usenext download link it's too well integrated with the page design. Indeed, the newbies could assume Usenext is directly related with, or, even worse, developed by µtorrent team.IMHO a good solution would be to create a separate page named Links or Advertisements, where those two (link +ad) could be posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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